Using N2O on MX5

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Has anyone tried using nos on thier miata and what nos kit is good to go with for the miata? I have a turbo in it of course and I know I need to run a wet kit. I'm running about 12 psi on the turbo. Any suggestions as to what brand? Or do they all work pretty much the same?
 
Fastmx5 said:
Has anyone tried using nos on thier miata and what nos kit is good to go with for the miata? I have a turbo in it of course and I know I need to run a wet kit. I'm running about 12 psi on the turbo. Any suggestions as to what brand? Or do they all work pretty much the same?

I don't know much about nitrous oxide systems (NOS = a brand), but with 12 PSI from a turbocharger, you had better have a well tuned engine management system. If not, don't expect the engine to hold up well.
 
Hey thanks for the reply. yeah, i do have it tuned well with forge pistons and all. pretty much all you can do to a miata. I started my project car 6 or 7 years back and have been building it slowly. I run my car at around 250 bhp maybe more. I haven't had it dyno tested but had it specially tuned. I'm starting to get the 1/4 mile time down to around in the 10 sec range and I know I won't be able to do it with out nos. I was seeing if any has tried any brands before I go with one.
 
Fastmx5 said:
Hey thanks for the reply. yeah, i do have it tuned well with forge pistons and all. pretty much all you can do to a miata. I started my project car 6 or 7 years back and have been building it slowly. I run my car at around 250 bhp maybe more. I haven't had it dyno tested but had it specially tuned. I'm starting to get the 1/4 mile time down to around in the 10 sec range and I know I won't be able to do it with out nos. I was seeing if any has tried any brands before I go with one.

I really wish I could help (again, i know nothing about N2O), but the thought of a 10 second Miata is just awsome :).


P.S. Welcome to the board! I've moved your thread to the open Miata forum so that it might recieve more attention.
 
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Hey thanks for a nice welcome by the why. I have a friend that ran a 10 second miata but it is not street legal. He runs a garret with nos. Boy that thing is fast. Unbelieveable when you see it.

kcbhiw said:
I really wish I could help (again, i know nothing about N2O), but the thought of a 10 second Miata is just awsome :).


P.S. Welcome to the board! I've moved your thread to the open Miata forum so that it might recieve more attention.
 
When I was exploring N2O kits, I had my eye on both the NX and Zex wet kits... (the port injection ones)
 
I ran a nos wet kit back in the day. Never had any problems. Being that you have turbo , I cant really compare.

Any of the major name brands should work well as long as they are set up properly. I do hear alot of good things about the NX kits.
 
Why a wet system over a dry? If you want 100 or lesshp, you should be fine with a dry setup. If more, then wet would be the way to go.

What I know of nitrous is you want consistancy. You'll want a bottle warmer, and purge solenoid fer sure. As far as which kit, ww.n2o.org has a forum that popped up in a quick google search. they may know more about who's reliable.

What compression are you running? I assume since you built the motor for turbo, you're about 9:1 or so?
 
nooo... dry system==asking for trouble. Especially with a turbo in the mix. Dry N2O only adds oxygen.... (thus creating a very lean environment)

would you crank your turbo up several PSI without adding extra fuel?
 
Yea I agree. I would go with a wet kit as well. Dry kits are only susposed to be for non-aspirated cars.

R2s99zoom said:
nooo... dry system==asking for trouble. Especially with a turbo in the mix. Dry N2O only adds oxygen.... (thus creating a very lean environment)

would you crank your turbo up several PSI without adding extra fuel?
 
Fastmx5 said:
Yea I agree. I would go with a wet kit as well. Dry kits are only susposed to be for non-aspirated cars.


I think you mean naturally aspirated :p

question though... why go through the trouble with nitrous if you can just run/tune your TC to run @ a higher PSI? Same gain, less hassle..
 
B1GHAM said:
question though... why go through the trouble with nitrous if you can just run/tune your TC to run @ a higher PSI? Same gain, less hassle..

thats pretty much 90% of wqhy i decided not to go n2o... figured i'd save that ~$1k to put towards the turbo setup i want to build, and would be ahead w/out having to buy bottles of zoom
 
Yea thats true to. I have a greddy turbo for the moment which I can only go up to about 12 psi. I need a bigger turbo to make more power like a t25 garret. oooo! that would be nice but I also have to make a manifold for that and don't have much time on my hands to weld one.

R2s99zoom said:
thats pretty much 90% of wqhy i decided not to go n2o... figured i'd save that ~$1k to put towards the turbo setup i want to build, and would be ahead w/out having to buy bottles of zoom
 
Fastmx5 said:
Yea thats true to. I have a greddy turbo for the moment which I can only go up to about 12 psi. I need a bigger turbo to make more power like a t25 garret. oooo! that would be nice but I also have to make a manifold for that and don't have much time on my hands to weld one.

t25's go for about $300 on ebay... T3's about the same price... and rebuild kits for em in case you go used seem to be sub $100...

cheaper than the nice wet kits i've seen... if you dont have time to do gthe welding, begi is still selling their manifold for both t3's and t25's for sub $500... tho a custom weld job if you have the skills would cost considerably less...

and you're still in the same price range as a decent wet kit, without buying accessories such as the actual n2o, bottle warmer, purge mechanism, etc...

don't forget the mod work you'd have to do to your intake manifold for the N2O to each port and keep it reliable under boost... (another of the things that caused me to forego N2O - once you drill those holes, theres no 'un drilling' them if you decide to scrap the N2O and just go with a bigger turbo at a later date...)
 
NOS = Nitrous Oxide Systems
Nitrous Oxide = Nitrous Oxide aka Laughing Gas

I'd say a ZEX wet kit...I've heard that a dry kit is a big no-no for boosted applications.

G/L with that though...as Kevin mentioned...a 10-sec Miata....no words can escape my lips at this current moment.
 
I will keep my fellow miata owners updating on the end result and what I end up running at the track. Hopefully i will be down the 10 sec mark. wish me luck

JDM-P5 said:
NOS = Nitrous Oxide Systems
Nitrous Oxide = Nitrous Oxide aka Laughing Gas

I'd say a ZEX wet kit...I've heard that a dry kit is a big no-no for boosted applications.

G/L with that though...as Kevin mentioned...a 10-sec Miata....no words can escape my lips at this current moment.
 

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