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Well, I've been asking for the past week about the BOV, if we can run it open vent or do we need to recirc it, is the MAF going to go on the coldpipe, or will there be a dual setup where we use the stock BPV. Also, what is the definitive price?
 
Bhamsan said:
Well, I've been asking for the past week about the BOV, if we can run it open vent or do we need to recirc it, is the MAF going to go on the coldpipe, or will there be a dual setup where we use the stock BPV. Also, what is the definitive price?

Definitive price is TBD.

The kit will come with a HKS SSQV on the turbo--->IC pipe, and it will be run open vent. The MAF will remain where it should be on the intake. That is how the kit will come for everyone.

If you want to run the dual setup, you will either have to weld some nipples onto your piping and intake for the BPV yourself, or you can have Beau make you a custom setup. The problem with this is that Beau is going produce enough of these kits to have them boxed and ready to go before you place your order, so if you want a custom setup from him, it will add to the price and add ~2 weeks to the process.

Maybe if enough of you post here that you want the dual setup, I can convince him to include a 1" nipple on all of the IC piping and intakes so you could run the stock BPV or the BSC Reflex BPV if you want to.
 
I'd like to get one made with a nipple for a dual setup.

If the HKS is open vent, won't it stall? You'd have to really fine tune it to get it to not stall.
 
Bhamsan said:
I'd like to get one made with a nipple for a dual setup.

If the HKS is open vent, won't it stall? You'd have to really fine tune it to get it to not stall.

Beau believes that since all of his other protege kits are running fine with a single open SSQV, that we won't have any problems with the stalling. We will see how it all goes. I personally think that the dual setup is the best way to go for our car, so I am trying to do what I can to get that included with this kit.
 
I don't see his logic, since every other person who has been running an open vent BOV on the MSP without a dual setup or moved MAF has had stalling problems, or has had to fine tune it perfectly to get it to run without stalling. I don't want to have to fine tune it to get it to run right, so I think the dual setup is ideal, but thats just what I know. Anyone else who wants to disagree, go ahead an chime in now.
 
Bhamsan said:
...Anyone else who wants to disagree, go ahead an chime in now.

No, no... people that disagree stay out of here, and all of the people that want to run the BOV/BPV setup with this kit SPEAK UP!!! :p
 
Ok, so that is 4 out of 4 so far that want to at least have the option to run a BPV. Keep 'em coming guys, and I will call Beau to talk about this later tonight.
 
I'd really like the dual setup. Can I vote again?

I think you should have some sway, seeing that you're the tester and all, and you could say, "Well, while testing it, I think we should really run a dual setup here..."
 
Bhamsan said:
I'd really like the dual setup. Can I vote again?

I think you should have some sway, seeing that you're the tester and all, and you could say, "Well, while testing it, I think we should really run a dual setup here..."

I am just one of the testers. This is Beau's kit and I am going to run it like he wants it to be run. If the single SSQV doesn't work for me, then I will test the BOV/BPV setup on my car... if it works then I will again suggest the addition of the BPV flanges into all of the kits. That's all I can do though.

Beau will know before everyone else if there will be a problem with any stalling. He will have the kit fully installed on the testbed car sometime this week. Until then, it looks like the BOV/BPV setup will have to be a custom deal per customer.
 
505zoom said:
I am just one of the testers. This is Beau's kit and I am going to run it like he wants it to be run. If the single SSQV doesn't work for me, then I will test the BOV/BPV setup on my car... if it works then I will again suggest the addition of the BPV flanges into all of the kits. That's all I can do though.

Beau will know before everyone else if there will be a problem with any stalling. He will have the kit fully installed on the testbed car sometime this week. Until then, it looks like the BOV/BPV setup will have to be a custom deal per customer.

That I can live with. I hope its not going to be too much to get the nipple welded on. Also, where do you propose it go?
 
i want the dual setup. even if it wont stall with one bov its still gonna have a lil bit of turkey. and everyone hates turkey right ?
 
mazdaspdprotege said:
i want the dual setup. even if it wont stall with one bov its still gonna have a lil bit of turkey. and everyone hates turkey right ?
no, no turkey, even with one bov.

Beau always places his BOV flange in the proper place, as close as to the turbo as feasible. you will not turkey even with one bov.

as to the stalling, that remains to be seen. Beau will test this before selling it, so we'll see. People have run a single BOV without stalling on MSP's. JDM Sam has a HKS SSQ without stalling. and of course no turkey... his cas sounds great.
 
One person gets it to work, and 100 other people don't. I think the chances of people with MSPs stalling is greater than not. That, and I think the other kits haven't stalled because its an MP3, or a P5, and they use a different ECU and MAF than the MSP, which is why it will stall on the MSP. They're still different cars.
 
Bhamsan said:
One person gets it to work, and 100 other people don't. I think the chances of people with MSPs stalling is greater than not. That, and I think the other kits haven't stalled because its an MP3, or a P5, and they use a different ECU and MAF than the MSP, which is why it will stall on the MSP. They're still different cars.
The MAF is identical, just the programming in the ECU is different.
 
Whatever, its still different, which will yield different results ie stalling in MSPs while not stalling on MP3s and P5s.
 

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