FabricatorX
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no problem, just need to remove the tmic shrouding
Turbo manifold - T3/T4
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Damn! 2.5 i/c piping. How's throttle responce and/or lag if any?
FabricatorX
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boost comes on hard at about 3500-4000rpms, and makes you crap yourself. 14psi on a 53lb/minute wheel, in a 3800lb car makes for some strange emotions. Also, we here at Tuning Grppe decided that we hate throttle by wire.
Please tell me that means you guys are working on a TBW solution.
FabricatorX
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no no no, we dont do that stuff here, especially when our friends at cp-e are working on a solution right now 
FabricatorX
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ok, so we are still trying to figure out why the throttle plate is prematurely closing under boost, which caused some massive surge, and popped the turbo.
chriscecc914
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you destroyed the turbo because of the throttle plate?
FabricatorX
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yeah, mainly because the surge was so strong when the throttle plate would close under boost rapidly, plus the bov not opening, because its too small or something, it caused the nut on the compressor wheel to spin off, then you can imagine the carnage from there. We are back together now, so were waiting for more road tuning. 796cfm turbo = metric s*** ton of air to blow through the system. Boost comes on hard at 3500-4000rpms. Crazy crazy!
Jimmy
Jimmy
PerformanceRacing
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The TP closes around 5500 rpm, where you lose lots of boost. Upgrade any of the two fuel pumpsand you'll hold boost AND have th TP open til 7kish
MazdaManiac
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??? CFM? Who rates a turbo in CFM? Which turbo is this? How about the BOV?
Unless that was a T-60 and the BOV is a flexible drinking straw, you have one seriously cheap turbo there.
no no no, we dont do that stuff here, especially when our friends at cp-e are working on a solution right now
Probably a crazy question but, do you guys think it wold be possible to run a regular old school cable throttle on the ms3/ms6?
ATE BALLER
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Ummm, CFM is way more important than psi. Psi is just easier to measure, and if you understand your turbo, it gives you a good refferance point as to how much extra air you're pushing through. Our turbo can achieve 19psi, but since it's so small, that makes it max out around 350-400cfm IIRC. The whole point of throwing a bigger turbo on a car is to increase the volume of air going through it, not necessarily the pressure. The most drivable big-turbo upgrades I've ever seen for any car have been relatively close to stock pressure levels. However, with the bigger turbo/ic/piping/tb/im, the volume of air going in pretty much doubles.
turboprotege5
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what car is this on
FabricatorX
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I was surprised to hear that as well, as I was giving reference to actual turbo output. Compressor is a 59mm, what are you getting at? Is this another post where you talk to us like were 6 years old again?
Not unless you can figure out a way to link it to the ECU.
MazdaManiac
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CFM is only half of the flow equation. That is why I was questioning it.
You don't rate a turbo in CFM. You rate it in pounds per minute.
CFM is not mass flow, it is volume, which is a meaningless number in forced induction since there are temperature deltas.
PSI is a symptom of flow and even less useful.
Like a dyno chart, PSI is just a way to sell stuff.
The Great NY
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Hey fabricators........have u ever thought about making a tubular manifold for the V6 guys? i think you could get some good business. i know i would buy one. im trying to peice together turbo stuff now for my 6.
FabricatorX
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Absolutely. We are in the works of getting one started soon, as long as there is interest
ATE BALLER
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Any new news?
FabricatorX
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New news is that the car is running with a .25bar spring, and is running at closer to stock speeds, just so the car can be mobile. We are trying to figure out what to do in the meantime.
Jimmy
Jimmy
