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cmdavis3rd
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HeavyH20 said:I took a peek at the OEM tire rating (260AA). They are softer, so they should be a little more grippy since the treadware rating is 260. Compare that to the Advan at 320 and the ResponseEdge at 440, and it is understandable why the tires are only good for 30,000 miles of nice driving and about 25,000 of spirited driving.
I also think a 255/55-18 would work, as well (420AA - so good for about 50K on these)
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fi...A&cs=255&dVeh=dVeh&vid=010441&rd=18&ar=55&ct=
Be careful when referencing tire wear ratings between different manufacturers.
TireRacks' tech site is a great tool for this type of information.
"The problem with UTQG Treadwear Grades is that they are open to some interpretation on the part of the tire manufacturer because they are assigned after the tire has only experienced a little treadwear as it runs the 7,200 miles. This means that the tire manufacturers need to extrapolate their raw wear data when they are assigning Treadwear Grades, and that their grades can to some extent reflect how conservative or optimistic their marketing department is. Typically, comparing the Treadwear Grades of tire lines within a single brand is somewhat helpful, while attempting to compare the grades between different brands is not as helpful."
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=48
With such a difference (260 vs 320 vs 440) yes, there will be a diffference in lifespan, but the a Bridgestone with a 260 and a different Bridgestone with a 320 will not be the same as a Bridgestone with 260 and a (Insert Tire Brand Here) with a 320. In reality, that 320 for (Insert Tire Brand Here) might be the equivalent of a (Insert Tire Wear Rating Here) for a Bridgestone.
Also, you are going to get an actual wearing of the tire that will be different if you are comparing traction and temperature grades that are different on similare wear rated tires, ie. 320AA vs 320B.
Not saying that you are wrong or trying to flame you, but there is more information that is needed to be evaluated beyond the wear rating.
As for the wear rating, that is true. It is, however, normally within about 20 to 40 points, however. 260 is rather low on the rating skill. Other factors will include driving style, locations, city versus highway, etc, etc. All the Tire Rack article is doing is covering their responsibility to make sure you know that tires wear out differently even with the same rating.
Personally, the lower number the better in my book. The tires are usually more predictable in cornering and under load. I just want to get something that does a little better in snow and rain.
Personally, the lower number the better in my book. The tires are usually more predictable in cornering and under load. I just want to get something that does a little better in snow and rain.
cricket1977
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my sport came with the good year rsa's. my '05 mazda 3 came with the same good year rsa's in 17" and absolutely hated them. I had to replace them even with rotating @ 23,000 miles. crap tires.
MrPirelliCX7
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Goodyear RSA
Goodyear RSA, LS2 and Response Edge are all junk
Goodyear has the best name and the worst product
And for those of you who need winter tires try the Pirelli or the Continental,
Nokian is a cheap brand, simillar to Kumho which if you live in a wet climate and own Kumho, you can consider yourself a gamblin man
Why dont you try some Pirelli Scorpion STR
Goodyear RSA, LS2 and Response Edge are all junk
Goodyear has the best name and the worst product
And for those of you who need winter tires try the Pirelli or the Continental,
Nokian is a cheap brand, simillar to Kumho which if you live in a wet climate and own Kumho, you can consider yourself a gamblin man
Why dont you try some Pirelli Scorpion STR
dhiney said:
MrPirelliCX7 said:
Nokian is a cheap brand?
That statement discredits any knowledge you have of tires. Better do some research. I don't want to be rude, but I have a peeve about people providing false or uninformed information to forum members.
MrPirelliCX7
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eagles
From my experience working with Goodyear for six years, Eagle ls and RSA are very poor in wet traction, and treadwear
Goodyear also had untrained factory workers running their plants for 4 months while the real workers were on strike YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you really want to pay through the nose for tires that some bum made
I rec Pirelli Scorpion zero or Conti Cross Contact UHP for good treadwear and excellent wet traction
these tires are built for Volvo which sets the standard for safety in automobiles
Unit 91 said:
From my experience working with Goodyear for six years, Eagle ls and RSA are very poor in wet traction, and treadwear
Goodyear also had untrained factory workers running their plants for 4 months while the real workers were on strike YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you really want to pay through the nose for tires that some bum made
I rec Pirelli Scorpion zero or Conti Cross Contact UHP for good treadwear and excellent wet traction
these tires are built for Volvo which sets the standard for safety in automobiles
MrPirelliCX7
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Mazda3 said:Nokian is a cheap brand?
That statement discredits any knowledge you have of tires. Better do some research. I don't want to be rude, but I have a peeve about people providing false or uninformed information to forum members.
how many winter tire test events held by manufacturers have you attended?
Nokian is a tier 2 brand in, I am sorry that is the truth at least in the states
Tier 1 is Bridgestone, Michelin, Pirelli, Conti, and I guess gdyr
what makes you a tire expert, I guarantee I know more about the global tire market than you
MrPirelliCX7 said:
I don't need to go to a tire test. I've used most of the premium winter tires on my own vehicles in the worst conditions. That allows me to compare tires for entire winters not one day tests that are probably designed for certain tires to win.
Nokian doesn't spend any money marketing their product is the US. It might be considered tier two because their sales are low, but not because of quality. Nokian is the tire of choice for European snow rally drivers. The Americans aren't going to allow a low sales tire that isn't commomly known by the American public to win a tire test. Your attitude towards them suggests you are either assuming thier tier 2 quality because you don't know anything about them or you work for an American tire company who is threaten by the superior quality.
Gray Ghost
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That looks like the GoodYear F1 tire.
Link:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y
BFD. You have not backed up one post with any quantifiable data. Al we have from you is your opinion. Post some links to back up your claims or I close the thread. And "Mr. Pirelli" try not to be such a smug ass when you post. Nobody likes a know-it-all who doesn't. Again,...data please...not opinion.
