Ken,
I took the liberty to kill the thread; it went no-where after we got all huffy about the hatchy from wisconsiny
However, I thought your reply was well thought out and well spoken, and I will save it here for posterity, forever and ever and ever....
And so it goes:
By Captain KRM P5:
ok ok, I admit, we're all being a little harsh here. When the poopflinging begins its hard to stop. Here's the "olive branch".
Hatchcrap (I can't get over that name, I don't know why, it's just ... who knows ... anyhow) let me explain a few things about us, since j00 r a n00b here
We're all a bunch of guys, regular joes (and a few janes even) that like to goof around, get together, grill up some burgers, play some games and have a few good laughs. we're all fairly down to earth. We don't like to drag race, we don't run from stoplight to stoplight and we don't run around challenging people to random races. Around here, both Gurnee and Chicago, the place is crawling with mister punkricer that wants race after endless race. We just don't go for that. The most we ever do is throw up some plastic cones in the community college parking lot and watch eachother run them over and spin out in futility.
Just the other night there was a guy in a Mitusbishi Evolution who kept screaming past me, slowing down, pointing at his gauge pillar and screaming away again. It was rush hour traffic and he eventually ran someone off the road by dodging in and out of lanes when he saw that I wasn't going to "run him".
We're also leery of and make fun of people that challenge others to race or "run" because, as said less eloquently above, those people tend to go from forum to forum or from place to place trolling for races because they feel like they have something to prove. "look at me my cars faster than yours" mentalities do not impress us. is it predjudice on our part to assume thats what you're doing, trying to show people up? perhaps it is. in all honesty, my impression of you thus far has been that you're out to simply humiliate people by outrunning them and deriving satisfaction from it - if that impression is incorrect than I apologize.
is your car faster than any of ours here? maybe it is, and maybe its not - i don't know. and in all honesty, for my own perspective, it doesn't matter to me one way or the other. you say your car does a 13 second 1/4 mile. thats pretty darn good. mine runs a high 13/low 14 for what its worth. you also say you have "just the basic bolt ons". In my mindset, basic bolt ons are on intakes, exhausts and the like. You make it sound like you have the aforementioned engine swap, which is a bit of a stretch to call a bolt on. if you're looking to brag, just tell us what makes your crappy hatchy so wunnerful. we're car nuts first and foremost and love to talk about the kinds of things people do under the hood, et al.
but hey, if your car is faster, thats great. its pretty easy to make a civic go fast these days with the abundance of parts and knowledge there is for that car. is my car the fastest mazda protege in the chicago area? it might be (emad's or jon's might be as fast or faster) but none of us frankly give a s***. we don't even run eachother to find out because we have better and more interesting things to do with our time.
speaking of which, you're more than welcome to drive down and hang out with us anytime. that's just what we do. we're all pretty accepting people when it comes down to it - just don't be expecting to cruise the streets looking for live version of need for speed.
I took the liberty to kill the thread; it went no-where after we got all huffy about the hatchy from wisconsiny
However, I thought your reply was well thought out and well spoken, and I will save it here for posterity, forever and ever and ever....
And so it goes:
By Captain KRM P5:
ok ok, I admit, we're all being a little harsh here. When the poopflinging begins its hard to stop. Here's the "olive branch".
Hatchcrap (I can't get over that name, I don't know why, it's just ... who knows ... anyhow) let me explain a few things about us, since j00 r a n00b here
We're all a bunch of guys, regular joes (and a few janes even) that like to goof around, get together, grill up some burgers, play some games and have a few good laughs. we're all fairly down to earth. We don't like to drag race, we don't run from stoplight to stoplight and we don't run around challenging people to random races. Around here, both Gurnee and Chicago, the place is crawling with mister punkricer that wants race after endless race. We just don't go for that. The most we ever do is throw up some plastic cones in the community college parking lot and watch eachother run them over and spin out in futility.
Just the other night there was a guy in a Mitusbishi Evolution who kept screaming past me, slowing down, pointing at his gauge pillar and screaming away again. It was rush hour traffic and he eventually ran someone off the road by dodging in and out of lanes when he saw that I wasn't going to "run him".
We're also leery of and make fun of people that challenge others to race or "run" because, as said less eloquently above, those people tend to go from forum to forum or from place to place trolling for races because they feel like they have something to prove. "look at me my cars faster than yours" mentalities do not impress us. is it predjudice on our part to assume thats what you're doing, trying to show people up? perhaps it is. in all honesty, my impression of you thus far has been that you're out to simply humiliate people by outrunning them and deriving satisfaction from it - if that impression is incorrect than I apologize.
is your car faster than any of ours here? maybe it is, and maybe its not - i don't know. and in all honesty, for my own perspective, it doesn't matter to me one way or the other. you say your car does a 13 second 1/4 mile. thats pretty darn good. mine runs a high 13/low 14 for what its worth. you also say you have "just the basic bolt ons". In my mindset, basic bolt ons are on intakes, exhausts and the like. You make it sound like you have the aforementioned engine swap, which is a bit of a stretch to call a bolt on. if you're looking to brag, just tell us what makes your crappy hatchy so wunnerful. we're car nuts first and foremost and love to talk about the kinds of things people do under the hood, et al.
but hey, if your car is faster, thats great. its pretty easy to make a civic go fast these days with the abundance of parts and knowledge there is for that car. is my car the fastest mazda protege in the chicago area? it might be (emad's or jon's might be as fast or faster) but none of us frankly give a s***. we don't even run eachother to find out because we have better and more interesting things to do with our time.
speaking of which, you're more than welcome to drive down and hang out with us anytime. that's just what we do. we're all pretty accepting people when it comes down to it - just don't be expecting to cruise the streets looking for live version of need for speed.
