The Ohio Random Thread... aka We Should Probably Be Working

Aah yes. The good old immobilizer. I didn't think of that since mine isn't hooked up.

It's made by Lucas. It's probably ****** up.
 
(hi) heading outside to install my speed bleeders and fiddle/clean the e-brake contraption.

then, work at 11, and whirly ball from 2-4 (work sponsored event :))
 
Aah yes. The good old immobilizer. I didn't think of that since mine isn't hooked up.

It's made by Lucas. It's probably ****** up.

is our key coded like the new cars? if so is it handled by said immobilizer? do you know how to get rid of it? I might just install another push start, depending on your answers I might be able to finally get rid of they key
 
I've seen a few Miatas with the push start and they all had to use the key still. If you have a way to completely remove the key that'd be pretty cool.

I agree with the extra step comment.
 
We have wild animals loose east of Columbus near Zainesville! Lions, tigers, grizzlies, wolves, giraffes, etc! Almost 50 animals! The cages were left open and they think the owner committed suicide.

Almost 40 have been caught/killed, but they closed schools out there!
 
is our key coded like the new cars? if so is it handled by said immobilizer? do you know how to get rid of it? I might just install another push start, depending on your answers I might be able to finally get rid of they key

Key, ignition, ECU, and immobilizer are one big "harmonious" package. You need the key, you need the ECU, and you need the immobilizer. I'm trying to rack my brain right now on if there is a potential work-around for it. Nothing is coming to mind. Here's a document about the system. There may be something in there that could give an idea. I haven't read it yet. It will have to wait till later as I'm swamped at work right now.

http://quadesl.com/pdf/immoblizer.pdf
 
After a quick search on mazda-speed.com, I found that Flyin Miata has re-wired cars to account for the immobilizer system. Find a wiring diagram for a 2002+ car, and we may be able to figure something out.

ECU is connected to the Immobilizer via one wire. Problem is that the Immobilizer acts as an interrupt to the coils. Cut the wire from ECU to Immobilizer, and car doesn't work. Like I said, find a wiring diagram for a car that has the immobilizer, and I'm sure we can find something.
 
I'm running a push button start on my Miata. Flip a toggle to power, wait for the fuel pump to finish priming, then push the big button. No key. But then again, it is 100% an autocross car (and usually doesn't have a steering wheel in it lol)

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We have wild animals loose east of Columbus near Zainesville! Lions, tigers, grizzlies, wolves, giraffes, etc! Almost 50 animals! The cages were left open and they think the owner committed suicide.

Almost 40 have been caught/killed, but they closed schools out there!

Haha I heard that this morning on the morning zoo (no pun intended) on my way to work. Cheetahs and s*** in Columbus, OH? What the hell is wrong with people these days?
 
Why push button start? Because race car.

Phen did you see the cover of SS this month? tee-hee :D
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there are 2 reasons why I still had the key:

1. to unlock the steering, I would have to remove the ignition cylinder assembly to 'fix' this. I would have to wire a switch like before to turn the car 'ON', valets broke this one time since they couldn't figure it out and i forgot to tell them

2. on the speed3 and 3 the immobilizer is tied to the ECU so it wasn't easy to bypass it.

for what Phen says, it might be easier on this car, I'll take a look at it later.

for those of you who haven't seen it, this is what I had on the speed 3
http://s317.photobucket.com/albums/mm394/pchois/Tutuga/?action=view&current=switchandstart.mp4

and here are some options for this car
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I like the first one that is really cool. The only buttons that I've seen on a Miata are the S2000 start buttons that people put in the place of the cigarette lighter. Check out the M.net garage for some really good write ups on how that's done.

Edit: Spec Miatas are required to have the steering lock defeated:

You drill out the pressed in thin steel cap on the bottom of the switch assembly and let the spring fall out. It is much like a small freeze plug, maybe 9/16" diameter. You could probably punch it with a sharp punch and pry it out. The locking pawl now stays in the bottom of the housing. You could glue the remains in the assembly but mostly folks just leave it this way.
Nothing needs to be removed except that steel plate below the steering column that usually has fallen off anyway.

From everything I've read it doesn't sound that difficult. I've been considering doing it for some time as my car gets more and more "trackified".
 
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I followed the same progression then though there was a large amount of body roll lol.

My thought after seeing the duct tape was "Man... they do make white duct tape, and it's not much more expensive..."


Then saw my favorite played out phrase.

Then thought to myself... Ya know, I have an EK Civic laying around with an engine swap in it not doing much...

because daily driver.
 
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