Success! MS3 boost control

[tru-boost]

And why dont you approve of the location i mounted my boost controller??? Not that i give a damn, just curious on your thoughts.

settle down.....i'm not trying to start a pissing contest. re-read my post.
i said you may spike higher than 18psi and the car is fine with that, but if it holds that amount for some time it will hit fuel cut every single time !! i have had my car dynoed and every sensor logged by 2 state of the art shops, please dont tell me "i dont know what i speak of"
as for the location. it is never a good idea to install a MBC (thats reallt all that ABC is) in line with the factory BC. for one thing, the car uses the stock BC to bring the boost on slowly, thats the whole "torque managment" thing you hear about. if you "T" in line with that, you dont get rid of that progressive spool-up. disconnecting and plugging that off will give much better spool up. this is how my set up, as well as driver311, and laloosh have done. if thats how you have it, and you like it...so be it, but i would never do it like that on my car.

ms38449...... yes the mbc on your other car will work fine. you can use a MBC on any turbo car. as i said though it is recommended that you dont put it in line with the factory BC. put the MBC in between the turbo and WGA. that will give the best most consistant results. the computer cant change it if it has no control !

 

[nig3]

settle down.....i'm not trying to start a pissing contest. re-read my post.
i said you may spike higher than 18psi and the car is fine with that, but if it holds that amount for some time it will hit fuel cut every single time !! i have had my car dynoed and every sensor logged by 2 state of the art shops, please dont tell me "i dont know what i speak of"
as for the location. it is never a good idea to install a MBC (thats reallt all that ABC is) in line with the factory BC. for one thing, the car uses the stock BC to bring the boost on slowly, thats the whole "torque managment" thing you hear about. if you "T" in line with that, you dont get rid of that progressive spool-up. disconnecting and plugging that off will give much better spool up. this is how my set up, as well as driver311, and laloosh have done. if thats how you have it, and you like it...so be it, but i would never do it like that on my car.

ms38449...... yes the mbc on your other car will work fine. you can use a MBC on any turbo car. as i said though it is recommended that you dont put it in line with the factory BC. put the MBC in between the turbo and WGA. that will give the best most consistant results. the computer cant change it if it has no control !

HMMM... ive been going threw all the ms3 dyno's and it appears i hit full boost sooner and quicker than anyone on this forum, hmmmmm must be that POS ABC im using hmmmmmmmmm.............. (smash)

 

[MS38449]

ms38449...... yes the MBC on your other car will work fine. you can use a MBC on any turbo car. as i said though it is recommended that you don't put it in line with the factory BC. put the MBC in between the turbo and WGA. that will give the best most consistent results. the computer cant change it if it has no control !

Ah.. I C, thanks for the info. I guess I'll run some lines when I do the epoxy and my TP.

As for (spike) no spike here. I get 15, 15.5psi 1st & 2nd 17psi after that.
The AFR freaks me out though. As long as I have a steady speed it runs where it is suppose to, but as soon as I throttle up it gets real lean. Not even a heavy acceleration.(dunno)

 

[tru-boost]

your gauge must be off. there none of the mods on your car raise boost. stock is 15.6 psi, there is no way you should be getting 17psi in third gear. it doesnt matter what bolt ons you have the ecu will maintain the stock boost level.

nig3 .... you are still looking for a fight. i'm not a hater believe me. i have a very similar set-up.... just different brand parts doing the job. i'm just telling you how the stock ecu works. the boost in the lower gears is brought on progressively. by adding your boost controller in line with the factorry BC, you dont get rid of that. sure you will still have higher boost, but it will also still come in progressively. if you like it..... great, i'm happy if your happy....its not my car. i wish you were close to me. we could both lock in at 17psi, and line up ! and i bet i would pull on you, because i bypassed the stock BC.

 

[mcspeed]

I'm relatively new to Turbo's and need to commend all of u on your knowledge. Also like to see the healthy , sometimes heated, debate on what works best.

Just because domebody said it doesn't mean it's true is how I like to approach things. Especially when it comes to the engine in my car that I rely upon to make a living.

Keep up the healthy debate and don't take any disagreement personally (whilst I decide on whatthehell I'm gonna do).
Peace

 

[rodney]

I'm relatively new to Turbo's and need to commend all of u on your knowledge. Also like to see the healthy , sometimes heated, debate on what works best.

Just because domebody said it doesn't mean it's true is how I like to approach things. Especially when it comes to the engine in my car that I rely upon to make a living.

Keep up the healthy debate and don't take any disagreement personally (whilst I decide on whatthehell I'm gonna do).
Peace

i got my money on nig3

 

[x'ed]

I don't, i used that thing and my car hesistated like a muther ******. If i was going 55mph in 6th and punched it it felt like i was getting fuel cut hard, then on the power, then off, then on, then off. It sucks, this thing is a pos, I'll sell it to someone for 20bucks if they want it.

 

[nig3]

I don't, i used that thing and my car hesistated like a muther ******. If i was going 55mph in 6th and punched it it felt like i was getting fuel cut hard, then on the power, then off, then on, then off. It sucks, this thing is a pos, I'll sell it to someone for 20bucks if they want it.

thats strange.... you say you installed the txs abc and now your hitting fuel cut, do you have a boost gauge?? maybe you have it turned up too much or somthing. anyways im sorry your experience wasnt as good as mine. try turning it down a hair and see if that helps. also from my experience anytime you ad any type of boost controller its not a good i idea to punch it in sixth gear at only 50 mph your asking for it then cause the load is too much. i would change your driving style first and quit trying to hit full boost in sixth at 50mph, thats not good even with the stock set up. also you should set the boost in high gear, not in first or second cause you will have the issue your describing, anyways, try doing that and lemme know what happens.
BTW
I did experience fuel cut once again yesterday when the temps shot up to 85 degrees from the 50's. i swear everytime the temps change alot it will fuel cut once or twice before it relearns the new conditions. then its fine. anyways i will keep everyone updated on my situation. thanks for the positive support!!

 

[tru-boost]

hes right, there is no need to go WOT from 55mph in sixth gear. even on a stock car. mine will get nasty boost surge if i do that, and it did it since day one.

 

[MS38449]

Dude..., I know my gauge is true. It's not a digital so I can't give you an exact number. But yea I stick to my story. Not every car runs the exact same way.

your gauge must be off. there none of the mods on your car raise boost. stock is 15.6 psi, there is no way you should be getting 17psi in third gear. it doesnt matter what bolt ons you have the ecu will maintain the stock boost level. QUOTE]

 

[rodney]

Dude..., I know my gauge is true. It's not a digital so I can't give you an exact number. But yea I stick to my story. Not every car runs the exact same way.

your gauge must be off. there none of the mods on your car raise boost. stock is 15.6 psi, there is no way you should be getting 17psi in third gear. it doesnt matter what bolt ons you have the ecu will maintain the stock boost level. QUOTE]

your gauge is wrong, because there is no way you will boost over 15.6 no matter what you have done, unless you raise the boost

 

[tru-boost]

correct, the boost is wastegate and ecu controlled. you can do whatever you want, but unless you have ems or at least some type of boost control as mentioned in this thread, you will never HOLD more than 15.6 psi. i know lots of guys claim to hold 16-17psi, the fact is... its just not true. most gauge companies will state a 5% variation for their gauges. just to put that into perspective that means @ 20psi, it could be off 1 full psi. it is possible yours is slightly more off. all the bolt ons in the world wont change that. a good exhaust will help bring your boost on faster, and possibly spike higher, but you wont see gains in the amount of boost that is held on a car with this type of boost control.

 

[laloosh]

i love how poeple try to proove theories that are already prooven by several. Tru-boost knows what hes talking about. Driver has the fastest ms3 on the forums and he used my write up. tru boosts ms3 rips, as for me, well just search for my posts. Trust me, your doing it the wrong way.

 

[trufanatic]

tru-boost and laloosh, i gave up on this thread and this guy about a page back.