** Stock rod versus Pauter rod **

[LinuxRacr]

Well accually the Kia Sportage used the BP series motors I believe. The internals I think are slightly different.

 

[Kooldino]

What are our stock pistons and rods made out of? Cast Iron?

 

[LinuxRacr]

What are our stock pistons and rods made out of? Cast Iron?

Can't remember, but the FE3 (I think that's it) is good for 500HP on stock internals. Mazda Greatness!

 

[duMb KeoLa]

why not just swap engines with this one then?? wouldnt it be easier and about the same price

 

[TECHNICAL 5]

The (FE3) is also good for 500hp on stock internals,its found in the european 626.I want one!!!

 

[TECHNICAL 5]

Check out this link about mazda engines some good stuff

not sure if its gonna workhttp://members.aol.com/solomiata/mx5Engine.html

 

[LinuxRacr]

The (FE3) is also good for 500hp on stock internals,its found in the european 626.I want one!!!

This is what I was trying to say! Thank you very much!

 

[perfworks]

yup this will answer your questions on the motor
http://members.aol.com/solomiata/MX5Engine.html
the one thing thats not there is the fact that the FS motor ALSO has oil jets used to keep the piston lubed and cool.
yes kooldino the stock ones are cast

 

[perfworks]

Do you know the difference in weight between the stock rod and the pauter?

i didnt have an ounce scale but will find out tomorow

 

[Kooldino]

The (FE3) is also good for 500hp on stock internals,its found in the european 626.I want one!!!

I dunno about STOCK, but according to that guy's web page, HIS FE3 that he rebuilt from a Sportage block will hopefully handle 500hp.

 

[Kooldino]

i didnt have an ounce scale

Go borrow the one your crack dealer uses.






Hmm, so linux's rods and pistons are aluminum but they clang a bit...Why don't we get forged iron/steel/chromoly ones made so they're more streetable?

 

[perfworks]

Go borrow the one your crack dealer uses.






Hmm, so linux's rods and pistons are aluminum but they clang a bit...Why don't we get forged iron/steel/chromoly ones made so they're more streetable?

well he said he lent it to you last and you gave it to some ho

the pistons for street /strip use that can handle higher cylinder pressures from F/I and the heat associated with it needs to be as lite as possible without sacraficing strength. that is what forged aluminum pistons from JE and many others provide.

 

[Kooldino]

well he said he lent it to you last and you gave it to some ho

Now is that a nice way to talk about your girl???

the pistons for street /strip use that can handle higher cylinder pressures from F/I and the heat associated with it needs to be as lite as possible without sacraficing strength. that is what forged aluminum pistons from JE and many others provide.

Right, but forged steel wouldn't be any heavier than stock really, would they? They'd just be stronger...

It just seems like a good comprimise to me.

 

[igdrasil]

piston/rod weight

Doesnt this means that after installing the forged rods and pistons with more weight, the dampeners will suffer thus unbalancing the motor causing some kind of dammage on the long run?

Or it isnt that bad?

 

[perfworks]

Now is that a nice way to talk about your girl???



Right, but forged steel wouldn't be any heavier than stock really, would they? They'd just be stronger...

It just seems like a good comprimise to me.

they are heavier. the best fot the money is Je . then hypereutectic alloys from KB. all depends on your budget and the quality you want out of a manufacturer

 

[perfworks]

Re: piston/rod weight

Doesnt this means that after installing the forged rods and pistons with more weight, the dampeners will suffer thus unbalancing the motor causing some kind of dammage on the long run?

Or it isnt that bad?

this is why i said the engine needs to balanced if the rotational mass increases or decreases.

 

[Ljspeed]

Damn those rods are beefed!! This current engine that was rebuilt was time limited and somewhat money limited. But I went with Hypereutectics and shotpeened the rods. And with the spare block I have now, I will prolly build that one forged some day But my previous motor was the #4 rod that nearly came out and thus cracked my piston in the process. So I will agree that our rods are limited in strength after boosting but tuning will be a key factor when going with the stock FS. Although forged is such a nice insurance policy.

 

[xtrememps]

Hey, any of you guys think about thermal coating any of the internals? I've heard that they can also help protect the engine greatly for high boost applications.

 

[deckedoutmp5]

how much for the rods and 8-5.1 pistons....

 

[Kooldino]

how much for the rods and 8-5.1 pistons....

I think it's been listed before. I wanna say around $1K for both.