** Stock rod versus Pauter rod **

perfworks

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If you plan on going with forced induction this is an upgrade you will NEED to undertake.
This is for those who havent seen this pic from my photo thread
 

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You are right.
I am bulding a motor for a 626 to run with Turbo and NOS. I am using the same rods with JE Pistons. I will try to post some pictures.
 
HiBoost TS said:
You are right.
I am bulding a motor for a 626 to run with Turbo and NOS. I am using the same rods with JE Pistons. I will try to post some pictures.
what compression ratio?
 
perfworks said:
If you plan on going with forced induction this is an upgrade you will NEED to undertake.
This is for those who havent seen this pic from my photo thread

You think we all NEED it?
 
JE Pistons and Pauter Rods here too. 9.1:1 here. Stock compression. Did you all notice how well machined the Pauters are? Notice that you can see the lines on the big end of the stock rod where it comes appart to install on the crankshaft. Can you find any such line ont the Pauters?
 
i really dont think we "NEED" them. there are plenty of people who have turbos and arent running new rods a pistons. as long as we dont boost over 7psi, i think well all be just fine. besides, arent msp's using the same engine?? correct me if im wrong.
 
the boys over at Flyin' Miata and Corky Bell (the turbo guru himself) have said that the internals are just fine up to 8 psi. Also, Mazdaspeed has stated that the Protege internals are fine up to 250 crank horsepower. Unless you plan on running some truly wacky boost, I don't think you NEED NEED forged goodies.

Nice peace of mind. Expensive peace of mind, though.

As far as I know, the internals on the MSP are identical to the internals on the MP3, the Protege sedan, the Kia Sportage (has an iron head, however) and the Protege5.
 
Correct. But for high-boost apps forged is better. Ideally, as someone else pointed out, you work on timing enough that the stress is minimalized. Hell, a F/I motor with stock internals good timing work can have LESS stress than a stock motor with sloppy mapping. For high boost (past 6 or 7psi), it's just a hell of a lot safer, and it's relatively cheap considering the added safety.
 
my comment to kooldino was pure sarcasm. the thread addresess the need for rods to be strenthened in the fs motor. since they use floating wrist pins , that means that the pistons and pins will have to be replaced too.
but as for the comment by captain: you are partially correct. thru many conversations with corky bell a while ago we concluded and agreed to the fact that the pistons in the fs are very strong. they can handle quite a bit of power. the rods are the weak link and become even more vulnerable without the proper fuel and IGNITION management :D
 
Captain KRM P5 said:
As far as I know, the internals on the MSP are identical to the internals on the MP3, the Protege sedan, the Kia Sportage (has an iron head, however) and the Protege5.

The Kia SPORTAGE???!!! Where did you hear this?
 

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