Stock MS3 vs RSX-S

[Hambino]

The man isn't kidding. I've seen some outrageous RSX numbers via forced induction. Not to mention, numerous high 13 N/A RSX's. They can be very quick, just not stock, or anywhere near it.

 

[avarela86]

I believe it too, Cybernation IS the place to get a kit. Don't hate RPI-Speed3 Honda just has more R&D in their motors. I got beat by a new CIVIC Si a couple weeks ago. I wonderd why and that's when he told me he had 376WHP at 7PSI. He was waiting to go 10PSi on stock internals. Honda FTW!

 

[Hikaru9]

RSX owner

My last car was an RSX (sold and got an MS3).

Now... I haven't raced these two cars side by side, but even with my limited knowledge, I believe my current MS3 will win easily. Sure I loved my RSX, but the MS3 just has so much more power that you can feel with your body.

If the RSX had forced induction, that would be a completely different story, however. Correct me if I'm wrong, but RSX is also about 500lbs lighter. *^_^* The thing I definitely miss from the RSX is the awesome shifter, and my MS3 shifter feels down right crappy compared to it - rubbery with long throws with vague gates: you sometimes get stuck while shifting to 3rd in a hurry.

Bottom line - I guess it'd be hard to tell unless you clarify what those "bolt-ons" are.

Skimming through some of the posts above, I see that some people are quite enthusiastic about near 400hp RSX and Civics. I'm sure its performance is unbeatable in a straight line; nevertheless, I bet its track times are laughable. (so much power in FWD layout = >_< )
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10495/sport-acura-rsx-challenge.html

Above article is just one showcase which indicates that power isn't everything. (500whp RSX?) Some people live their lives a 1/4 mile at a time (Vin Diesel in FF lol~), and I respect that; nonetheless, that's just not my idea of "racing". *^_^*

 

[Hyun]

No doubt Boosted RSXs are fast. Power increase with Hondata is ridiculous too. But if i wanted a car that go fast straight line, i probably woudnt have spent 20+k on a car. I would have gotten gutted EK with k20 with boost. It would eat Boosted RSX for breakfast and most cars on the road.

But that's not the type of car im looking for. The perfect car in my opinion is car that have decent power, handles corner well, and practical enough to use as daily driver. This is why i dont regret buying speed3. Not many cars offer all that in a car.

 

[redrims]

Above article is just one showcase which indicates that power isn't everything. (500whp RSX?) Some people live their lives a 1/4 mile at a time (Vin Diesel in FF lol~), and I respect that; nonetheless, that's just not my idea of "racing". *^_^*

True only if you're a serious road racer. For us average folks, racing occurs on the highway of I-95 or similar. I'll be dam if I race someone through the city, turns, and ramps just because I know it can handle better.

Even when you go to the street races, who says "Okay. Here's the track. We're going to go to the first light, make a right. Hit the second ramp that turns about 180*. Turn at Maple St, then a hard left on Brently Rd. Then the straight-away is back to the starting point."? Sorry, but it just doesn't happen that way. I'll be happy with more performance under the hood than a highly superb handling car. Unless you auto-x a lot, most aren't going to take the car's handling to its limits.

 

[FlyinHawaiian]

True only if you're a serious road racer. For us average folks, racing occurs on the highway of I-95 or similar. I'll be dam if I race someone through the city, turns, and ramps just because I know it can handle better.

Even when you go to the street races, who says "Okay. Here's the track. We're going to go to the first light, make a right. Hit the second ramp that turns about 180*. Turn at Maple St, then a hard left on Brently Rd. Then the straight-away is back to the starting point."? Sorry, but it just doesn't happen that way. I'll be happy with more performance under the hood than a highly superb handling car. Unless you auto-x a lot, most aren't going to take the car's handling to its limits.

s*** dude, you should know better, living in Maryland and such. Fine, you cruise down to Rockville or on I-270 or whatever and get into a tangle on a straight line, but I get a nearly equal number of challenges on the back roads around there or up here in State College, PA. And when that RSX (which it HAS happened a couple of times) gets up on my ass on a country road and tries to stay with me, there's no contest. You get the same respect points on either end. Its not all about straight line speed: It's what you do with it.

-Jeff

 

[Hikaru9]

True only if you're a serious road racer. For us average folks, racing occurs on the highway of I-95 or similar. I'll be dam if I race someone through the city, turns, and ramps just because I know it can handle better.

Even when you go to the street races, who says "Okay. Here's the track. We're going to go to the first light, make a right. Hit the second ramp that turns about 180*. Turn at Maple St, then a hard left on Brently Rd. Then the straight-away is back to the starting point."? Sorry, but it just doesn't happen that way. I'll be happy with more performance under the hood than a highly superb handling car. Unless you auto-x a lot, most aren't going to take the car's handling to its limits.

I take the liberty of assuming that your definition of "performance" is straight line only. Obviously my perspective is different since I see the word "performance" to cover a wide variety of a vehicle's characteristics, such as acceleration, lateral acceleration, as well as braking.

Maybe I'm getting old, but I see racing on the public roads as something very irresponsible that puts you and other motorists in danger. I used to drive in a way I drive cars in video games, but (as I got older) everything changed when I realized that there's no reset/ continue button in real life. I'm not calling any of the forum members irresponsible but merely pointing out the dangerous consequences involved with the street racing scene.

Different cars appeal to different people. I chose an MS3 because I enjoy driving on twisty mountain roads while having the need to carry people and musical instruments from time to time. I'm sure some people enjoy its straight line torque induced performance more which is perfectly fine. Some wince at the 190HP rating of the Lotus Elise while to me it's one of the most desirable cars. *^_^*

 

[redrims]

Well the MS3 wins either way.... underhood performance or handling performance.

I'm just saying that its rare for me to take my cars handling to its limits. I don't really auto-x.

BTW, I never go to Rockville. I hate it. You couldn't get me to go there if you had naked women there holding a million dollars for me. I rarely run my car at the street races cause thats too much attention for me. But when I do race, I usually find it being late at night on the highway. Nothing planned, just spontaneous. Just having probably an evo or stang pull up to me and tempt me, so I hit it as long as its safe to do so.

I don't do back roads. People have tried to get me to do it, but its not me. To scary for me. All I keep thinking is, "I wonder when that deer is going to pop out". I'll take on back roads solo, but never with another car. If he crashes, I'll feel guiltly. If I crash, I'll be pist and in pain.

 

[BKK Jack]

..Maybe I'm getting old, but I see racing on the public roads as something very irresponsible that puts you and other motorists in danger. I used to drive in a way I drive cars in video games, but (as I got older) everything changed when I realized that there's no reset/ continue button in real life. I'm not calling any of the forum members irresponsible but merely pointing out the dangerous consequences involved with the street racing scene...

I couldn't agree with you more. After doing multiple track days on my bike, I found myself leaving a much larger safety margin when riding or driving on the streets. There are just too many variables when driving on public roads.

Although I will admit there is some skill involved in straight-line racing, the real fun is on a track (not oval). If two wheels isn't your thing, try carting. It's an absolute blast!