Speed3 at 465whp!

[Darksun280]

i think your under the assumption i'm challenging your statement, i'm just trying to get clear on how you know that and you keep dodgeing the question..

Jesus Christ...YES YES Ron has said he ran 20 psi when he made that power.

 

[Darksun280]

Well I would like to know how at 20 PSI on a 35R turbo he did 386whp ? I made 372whp at only 15 psi, with a smaller displacement engine and a 3582R turbo now tell me why ? Im pretty sure if that guy is running a real GT35 and boosting 20 PSI he should be making real power, Probably they lied about the PSI they were really running.. I mean. a GT35 Turbo is rated for 600 HP, How can you say is not possible with this turbo ? I don't have a MS3 but im using the same GT series Turbo on my MSP and currently running 25 PSI on Methanol.. There is something wrong in here definitely

see on one hand if you figure between 15 and 20 percent drive train loss between Whoosh and this 465 dyno i GUESS it seems possible but whoosh has a ported intake mani and other goodys this MS3 is on stock motor. I just think its alittle bit to optimistic with its numbers let alone I know they don't have a fuel system to support those numbers Whoosh does....

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

thye arent sayin it cant be done with the turbo i think you read it worng they are arguing the fact that it cant be done at 20psi

That's what i said.. that guy in the MS3 is either not telling the truth about PSI Running in that dyno, but I also don't believe at 20 PSI whoosh is only making 386whp how the hell ? to make 465whp I believe you need 25 psi+ and running some meth...

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

see on one hand if you figure between 15 and 20 percent drive train loss between Whoosh and this 465 dyno i GUESS it seems possible but whoosh has a ported intake mani and other goodys this MS3 is on stock motor. I just think its alittle bit to optimistic with its numbers let alone I know they don't have a fuel system to support those numbers Whoosh does....

oh **** that in that case, that Dyno is full of s***. no doubt.. Stock motor just wont happen.

 

[Darksun280]

That's what i said.. that guy in the MS3 is either not telling the truth about PSI Running in that dyno, but I also don't believe at 20 PSI whoosh is only making 386whp how the hell ? to make 465whp I believe you need 25 psi+ and running some meth...

well heres the deal evey motor is different rsx dudes on 20 psi on a GT35 are putting down 420-s through 430's on 20 psi but they have a very well flowing head 2.0liter motor and 11.1 compression. the MS3 motor head i doubt flows as well 9:5:1 compression and MSP have a 2.0 motor and I don't know the compression or how well your head flows. its hard to state how much power you should be making but to say crazy high numbers on low psi is cause for doubt.

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

well heres the deal evey motor is different rsx dudes on 20 psi on a GT35 are putting down 420-s through 430's on 20 psi but they have a very well flowing head 2.0liter motor and 11.1 compression. the MS3 motor head i doubt flows as well 9:5:1 compression and MSP have a 2.0 motor and I don't know the compression or how well your head flows. its hard to state how much power you should be making but to say crazy high numbers on low psi is cause for doubt.

When i said how the hell whoosh was making 386whp i was talking about that at 20 psi he should be making more than that, not less..

That's why i said if i did 372whp at 15 psi, now can he only be making 14whp more than me, with 5 psi more.. you know...

 

[2.0t03speed]

more drive train loss

 

[Darksun280]

When i said how the hell whoosh was making 386whp i was talking about that at 20 psi he should be making more than that, not less..

That's why i said if i did 372whp at 15 psi, now can he only be making 14whp more than me, with 5 psi more.. you know...

thats the who drive drain loss coming in. Honestly i dont know what to think. what it brakes down too is

evil monkey MS3 GT30 25psi 411whp
Blue shark RSXS GT35 20psi 430whp
Whoosh MS6 GT35 20psi 386awhp
you MSP GT35 15psi 372whp

 

[MTuning]

i love how some are comparing power to boost pressure. there's no rule of thumb correlation between those two variables at all, than you add in all the other variables and all hell breaks loose.

 

[2.0t03speed]

temp,type of dyno,humidity,tune, ect. lol

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

thats the who drive drain loss coming in. Honestly i dont know what to think. what it brakes down too is

evil monkey MS3 GT30 25psi 411whp
Blue shark RSXS GT35 20psi 430whp
Whoosh MS6 GT35 20psi 386awhp
you MSP GT35 15psi 372whp

ok ok... Whoosh have a AWD MS6, ok.. I thought he had an MS3 FWD.... Since you said WHP, not AWHP.

Well after that 372whp dyno I added SR Adjustable Cam Gears, 1000cc Injectors, Methanol Injection, more aggressive tune and raised boost from 15 PSI to 25 PSI.. I'm just waiting for my friend to come back from Argentina to dyno my car again with the stuff i've added..

Sure every car and engine is a different story, i didn't know the dyno Vid car had stock engine. I think you can't really make that amount of power on stock pistons and rods.

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

Mazdaspeed2oo35


i met and hung out with dan ( alejo ) we talked about you and your car

i bleed when i read abou your carlol jk

Oh yeah, you have hung out with Alejo ? Cool man. His a cool guy with s*** load of Knowledge about building engines, fixing etc. We were actually good friends back in miami, I mean we still are but you know i live here and he lives there. hahaha What did he said about me or my car ???? lol why do you bleed ? lol lol lol

 

[Darksun280]

i love how some are comparing power to boost pressure. there's no rule of thumb correlation between those two variables at all, than you add in all the other variables and all hell breaks loose.

We have no choice other wise we just have to believe everything we read on the internet. Gotta work with what we got.

 

[SPEED3TYPE2]

BUT how do you reeally know FOR SURE that he is running 20psi? did he just tell you that.. you should be one of those politicans who dodge questions..lol

 

[Darksun280]

BUT how do you reeally know FOR SURE that he is running 20psi? did he just tell you that..

No he told me he was running 50 psi and olive oil for gas. Moving on sense some people are stuck on stupid....

 

[MikeHTally]

most mzr motors blow at like 35k rpm, maybe the tune is the real pob with the motors blowing..

I'd think they'd blow at way less than that. Honda's racing V-10s have a 25K redline.

 

[SPEED3TYPE2]

No he told me he was running 50 psi and olive oil for gas. Moving on sense some people are stuck on stupid....

another question dodge...lol

 

[SPEED3TYPE2]

I'd think they'd blow at way less than that. Honda's racing V-10s have a 25K redline.

woops 3500rpm..lol

 

[Darksun280]

I'd think they'd blow at way less than that. Honda's racing V-10s have a 25K redline.

I dataloged 6 degrees of knock at 3008rpms and 13 percent throttle fuel pres was at 1100. I'm sure enough days of that is whats killing us. set you DH to go green at anything over 2 degrees knock you'll see how bad knock is in these cars down low.

 

[bova80]

that dynoj is a lie. look at one run it was 223hp. they probably tweaked some settings and made it look like it was way more. why is this car running a front mount but also has the stock top mount on? no way this car hit 467hp, not buying it.