Speaker Questions.....

Alright, so i just purchased my P5 on friday last week. 2002 Used silver great condition, and i love the car! my only thing is that the speakers in the doors are kind of a weird size....anyone know what speakers will fit the locations, or if there are any good sets of component systems that will fit. maybe some adapter kits or anything thanks
 
GlowstickNinja said:
Alright, so i just purchased my P5 on friday last week. 2002 Used silver great condition, and i love the car! my only thing is that the speakers in the doors are kind of a weird size....anyone know what speakers will fit the locations, or if there are any good sets of component systems that will fit. maybe some adapter kits or anything thanks

If I recall correctly, 6x9 will fit the front. Check the stickies in the audio section, 1sty has listed all the relevant information that anyone could possibly need. There is even a "how to" on how to remove the door panels.
 
6x9s will not fit in a 5x7 hole. You need either 5x7/6x8, 6.5, or 5.25.

Do some research in the car audio section of this site before you buy anything...and feel free to ask questions.

If you upgrade the speakers I suggest either purchasing a small amp (25-30x2) or a new head unit. The factory head unit only puts out 7-10 watts and if you upgrade your speakers without adding anything else, you will loose alot of bass response.

Give us an idea of your budget, listening habits, and preferences, and we can make some suggestions.
 
chuyler1 said:
6x9s will not fit in a 5x7 hole. You need either 5x7/6x8, 6.5, or 5.25.

Do some research in the car audio section of this site before you buy anything...and feel free to ask questions.

If you upgrade the speakers I suggest either purchasing a small amp (25-30x2) or a new head unit. The factory head unit only puts out 7-10 watts and if you upgrade your speakers without adding anything else, you will loose alot of bass response.

Give us an idea of your budget, listening habits, and preferences, and we can make some suggestions.


Well I already have the head unit to replace the stock one.......It is a panasonic 8400u so i am not worried about the wattage, just really about what would fit and what wouldn't fit. Do the stock speakers sound better with some actual voltage running through them? Oh also on one of the forums i read that the p5 comes with a sub in a plastic bandpass box is this true?????

Furthermore i already have a kicker kx1200.1(1470 watts rms) being hooked up with 1 guage power cable, pushing a kicker solo baric L7 in a 3.5 cubic foot box in the trunk/hatch.........so dont need any recommendations there lol. (2thumbs) (naughty)
 
for a year now ive been been pushing, im guessing, 45W RMS to my front stock speakers.. they sound alot better, im actually amazed how loud these speakers can get with this much power

GlowstickNinja said:
Do the stock speakers sound better with some actual voltage running through them?
 
chuyler1 said:
6x9s will not fit in a 5x7 hole. You need either 5x7/6x8, 6.5, or 5.25.

chris, with a little custom work, I am sure you can make them fit......
-R
 
GlowstickNinja said:
Well I already have the head unit to replace the stock one.......It is a panasonic 8400u so i am not worried about the wattage, just really about what would fit and what wouldn't fit. Do the stock speakers sound better with some actual voltage running through them?

I am by no means an audio expert. But I found that a H/U upgrade by itself improved sound quality a bit. Maybe it's a cleaner signal, I don't know.
 
Protege52003 said:
chris, with a little custom work, I am sure you can make them fit......
-R
It really depends on the basket. The average basket would make the speaker stick out 2-3" when placed in a 6x8/5x7 hole. I've tried it before...my old 83 Chrysler had 6x8s in the rear deck and I tried to put a set of Kenwood middle-of-the road 6x9s in. I had to mount them from the bottom because they stuck up 2.5".

6.5"s fit with a 1/2" or 3/4" baffle because they are only a 1/2" too big opposed to the 1" additional width of the 6x9s

Of course...if you want to cut the door, all bets are off...anything will fit.
 
GlowstickNinja said:
Well I already have the head unit to replace the stock one.......It is a panasonic 8400u so i am not worried about the wattage, just really about what would fit and what wouldn't fit. Do the stock speakers sound better with some actual voltage running through them? Oh also on one of the forums i read that the p5 comes with a sub in a plastic bandpass box is this true?????
Lift up the carpet in the hatch. If all you see is a spare tire then you do not have a factory subwoofer. The sub came standard on 2003.5 models which did not have a roof rack. From what I have read, the sub is not worth the space it takes up. If you have one, pull it out and install your solo baric.

So for speakers, again...
I recommend a 5x7 or 6.5 for the front and 6.5s for the rear if you want rear speakers.

If you're on a budget I'd skip the rears all together. I also highly recommend components over coaxials. When I say components, I mean any set that comes with an out-board crossover. For example, the Infinity Reference 6810cs are an easy install for any 2002.5+ Protege5 (with the factory tweeters in the A-pilars). If you are looking to spend more, JL Audio XR570-CSi are nice.
 
GlowstickNinja said:
Well I already have the head unit to replace the stock one.......It is a panasonic 8400u so i am not worried about the wattage,


I would never rely on a head unit to power any speakers. It may say 50x4 or whatever but its actually about 18rms. Screw that.

I have 7" mids in the front doors with tweeters in the mirror housing. I have 6 1/2" mids in the back doors with tweeeters sunk in by the door handle. I have 6x9's in the back hatch panel, and 2 12" in the full enclosure in the back.

I have a 90 x 4 feeding the components, a 180 x 2 feeding the 6x9's and and a 600 x 1 feeding the 2 subs. All speakers are polk momo and amps are JBL.

The mids all fit in the doors very easily. All you have to do is trace around your stock speaker on a piece of 1/4" board then you trace around your new speaker on the inside. cut it out, bolt it to your new speaker then screw in in place of the old speaker and your done. I ran all new speaker wire too, but if your only gonna power them with the little power from the headunit, I wouldnt bother.
 
In addition to more power, an external amplifer for your speakers gives you the flexibility of a crossover. Most 6.5" and smaller speakers do not sound well below 80Hz (even if they play that low the tone is very thin and flat). Sending even 30 watts RMS crossed over at 90Hz to a pair of components up front will sound 100 times better than sending an 18 watts RMS full range signal from your head unit.

Some head units have built-in crossovers but usually they only filter the RCA outputs.
 
chuyler1 said:
In addition to more power, an external amplifer for your speakers gives you the flexibility of a crossover. Most 6.5" and smaller speakers do not sound well below 80Hz (even if they play that low the tone is very thin and flat). Sending even 30 watts RMS crossed over at 90Hz to a pair of components up front will sound 100 times better than sending an 18 watts RMS full range signal from your head unit.

Some head units have built-in crossovers but usually they only filter the RCA outputs.


very good point also
 
Action Jackson said:
I am by no means an audio expert. But I found that a H/U upgrade by itself improved sound quality a bit. Maybe it's a cleaner signal, I don't know.


I agree, I only replaced all four speakers and the head unit and the sound quality improved significantly (to my ears).

I was going to put an amp but the sound is good enough for my use.
 
The amp will make a more noticable difference than new speakers / stock head unit.

I have been pushing the stocks with a R/F Punch45 (limited with an electronic crossover) and it sounds miT fine.

Bump for the seperates too! ;)
 
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