twilightprotege
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what lift do you have on yours zeus?
Someone clarify cams for me.
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Turbo Matty P
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Nick, I've heard the only cam gears to not cause problems where the Tri-point units. There is some sort of cam position sensor built into the exhaust cam that has to be replicated on the new gears. If the cam gears you can provide are only $145 then I'll do it.
When you say "tremendous gains" can you give me a rough estimate? I'm not one to take anything to heart without a dyno but can I expect at least 15-20hp with at least 10whp??
Thanks a lot man. As always you're a wealth of knowledge, genorisity and patience. You shoulda been a nun.
When you say "tremendous gains" can you give me a rough estimate? I'm not one to take anything to heart without a dyno but can I expect at least 15-20hp with at least 10whp??
Thanks a lot man. As always you're a wealth of knowledge, genorisity and patience. You shoulda been a nun.
Twilight I'm slightly under your total lift more so on the exhaust, and I thought that was pushing the stock valve setup. The overall problem with my setup is that even with a 230 lb. clutch and motormounts, its jerky in town driving. Works poorly with the stock intake too. A big flat spot just under 4k. After that it pulls pretty good though. Great on the highway, with killer 80 mph top grear pull.
I didn't have any reason to dyno, so I can't say for sure but 25% gain on top is about right. Almost the same low end torque, just rougher at low throttle. Right before installing the cams I put on a header too, so I may be a poor judge of just the cams.
This car shakes like a SOB and is vibrating apart. It was such a smooth quite car before it met me.
There're several tricks to the exhaust cam position pickup. The easiest is to cut a bolt head off and tac it on the pully in the right spot. POC, All you need is el cheepo pullies like me.
I didn't have any reason to dyno, so I can't say for sure but 25% gain on top is about right. Almost the same low end torque, just rougher at low throttle. Right before installing the cams I put on a header too, so I may be a poor judge of just the cams.
This car shakes like a SOB and is vibrating apart. It was such a smooth quite car before it met me.
There're several tricks to the exhaust cam position pickup. The easiest is to cut a bolt head off and tac it on the pully in the right spot. POC, All you need is el cheepo pullies like me.
Turbo Matty P
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Zeus, have you looked into the AWR soft (automatic) motor mounts??
The reason your car is running so erratically is that u have about 16deg difference between intake and exhaust. Thats alot. The exhaust cam i will have ground will be more like 215deg duration @ .0050" and my intake is currently 210deg. I will also have the exhaust lift at close to the intake .344+. That should be sufficent for my needs. Also hopefully the exhaust cam will give me some more high end power. But i would definately be interested in the AEM gears for that price. But it is true that there is a cam position sensor that if not addressed will throw CEL.
twilightprotege
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yeah my car shakes like a sob too!!!! hard awr engine mounts...all good 
free massage as you drive! hehehehe. actually while driving it's not bad, but inbetween idle and 1800rpm it's nasty
free massage as you drive! hehehehe. actually while driving it's not bad, but inbetween idle and 1800rpm it's nasty
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twilightprotege said:yeah my car shakes like a sob too!!!! hard awr engine mounts...all good
And to think, people spend tons of money for massagers in their cars!(friday)
twilightprotege
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tee hee....
but i'm used to it now, i hardly notice it. but someone who hasnt been in the car thinks i've got a big block top fuel engine or something
but i'm used to it now, i hardly notice it. but someone who hasnt been in the car thinks i've got a big block top fuel engine or something
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Nice...My mounts are on the way.
I can't wait for the mad tight 2.0 liter rumble!
I can't wait for the mad tight 2.0 liter rumble!
twilightprotege
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no, for 3 reasons.
1. your compression ratio is only 9.1:1
2. ecu
3. you would need very large cams which would only come into effect above your redline.
but having said that, i am aiming for 150whp from my engine just by plonking on a full exhaust system (plus my mods in my sig). still to come on top of that is a light weight flywheel, underdrive pulleys, a unichip (my australian ecu can support piggy back's no problem) and my secret weapon.....intake manifold modification. a couple of people on here know what i'm going to do, so if you're reading this please dont tell anyone at the moment.
my final goal - 175whp (friday)
fingers crossed!
1. your compression ratio is only 9.1:1
2. ecu
3. you would need very large cams which would only come into effect above your redline.
but having said that, i am aiming for 150whp from my engine just by plonking on a full exhaust system (plus my mods in my sig). still to come on top of that is a light weight flywheel, underdrive pulleys, a unichip (my australian ecu can support piggy back's no problem) and my secret weapon.....intake manifold modification. a couple of people on here know what i'm going to do, so if you're reading this please dont tell anyone at the moment.
my final goal - 175whp (friday)
fingers crossed!
The Mazda cams are available in billets. The first few sets we had made were regrinds. They will be the ones we R&D.Zeus said:
As far as sharing specs is concerned, we feel that we have spent a great deal of time and money into the project, for others to just jump on the wagon. We have done alot of research for both FI and NA. We feel that the cams we have spec'd out will work well alone but do recommend the adjustable AEM cam gears for specific applications. I will definately provide dyno numbers with the corrisponding stages. That is how we feel they should be judged. The same vehicle will be test fitted with the stage 2 cams and then run against the baseline results. That will give an indication as to what the enduser can expect when they install theirs to a base vehicle. From there the cam gears can be used to provide optimal tuning for the individual vehicle and modification package.
The price Matty is per gear. And that will most likely be the forum price. I am waiting to hear back from the sales division so that we can make the pricing final.Turbo Matty P said:
As far as the pickups are concerned, they have been replicated so as to run the vehicle normally.
Matty, You know i will not give any gain estimates without dyno results to compare. What I do know is that the cams will be more aggressive for the given application and can be tuned via the gears we are marketing.
Please be patient with me as we are trying to get all this wrapped up asap.
R&D takes a little while while your trying to get a slew of other projects done to pay the bills. I will post the information very soon. Dont think that we are doing all this for thrills. This is to advance the community as a whole.
Turbo Matty P
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I understand about not wanting to make unfounded claims (I wish everyone was like you!). I will be passing on the gears, but I'm in for the cams. Just let me know when they're available for purchase. I don't need to see a dyno from you. I'm also waiting for the wagner header, dp, and mp. I figure these will set me well on my way to 150whp.
