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true....damnit.... oh well 
TurfBurn said:
So I drove my first mp5 today..
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B18C1TurfBurn said:
B16
D15B7 (Valve cover gets a little leaky around 150,000 miles, just enough to notice)
D16Z6
4AFE
Can't think of any others off the top of my head.
It's weird how mad everyone is getting. Just an my experiences. And the 2 P5's i knew of blew up during daily driving.
flat_black
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I've owned my '02 Protege5 since 2001, and have 96k on it, now. I've not had a single problem, at all. It burns a little much oil, now, but that's my fault for the way I drive. =)
Any car that captivates me enough that I can't wait to get into it in the morning after four years HAS to be a good car.
Oh, and when I say no problems, I mean NONE. Whatsoever. Except for the clutch, which was my fault. =) Whoops.
Any car that captivates me enough that I can't wait to get into it in the morning after four years HAS to be a good car.
Oh, and when I say no problems, I mean NONE. Whatsoever. Except for the clutch, which was my fault. =) Whoops.
Replica said:
I meant I could list off cars that had problems.... not take specific motors out there... I'm sure you can search forums though and fine people who popped those two.... there are going to be motors that give up on cars even in daily driving from time to time... it's just what happens in a manufacturing... now how many should pop, when etc and why is all determined by the risk factors and the ISO or SIGMA program that the manufacturer uses.
But other cars with issues:
Mitsubishi Evo VIII: Clutch issues and known to oil starve in extended cornering
Mitsubishi Lancer (little ones): Top ring land pops if bad gas or basically any FI or Nitrous is used (obviously that's not stock... but they can and have popped under normal useage).
All 3.4L V6's for Chevy Venture vans, as well as the Pontiac Grand Prix have major issues with the intake manifold gasket leaking and fouling the motors.
Stock STI's had major detonation issues that had to be corrected
Stock Mustange V6's pop head gaskets...
Do we even need to go into Jaguar and their reliability issues? or Mercedes which has one of the highest visit to service center rates of any manufacturer I had heard?
I can keep researching but the point is most motors will have some kind of problem here and there. There are GOING to be reliability issues... you can make a car 100% reliable... but that costs too much money... so all of us b**** about wanting cheap cars so we get the best that Mazda or Ford or Chevy or Chrysler can produce for the price point they are aiming for.
Replica said:
The reason you got so many people reacting to your statement is that you made what would seem to be a poorly worded blanket statement... you have said that the Protege is NOT a reliable car... and then made scare tactic statements that make it sound like every stock motor is a ticking time bomb waiting to blow up.
So sure... here and there a motor is going to go... but for every one of those there are ones that have been abused all to hell and never even twitched or had a single problem. You also don't know exactly what caused the motors that did go to blow up. A VICS screw getting loose is a freak accident. I believe there was a wrist pin that cracked off on somebody's motor... but that's the only time we've heard of a wrist pin problem with any motor... even abused ones for us... so the fact is you can't say the protege is unreliable as a blanket statement... in general the majority of us have all had better than average luck with these cars. and keep in mind you'll always here more about the problems than you will about the cars that never show a single sign of any problem at all.
flat_black
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The WRX hasn't had any issues, nope. Slight grind going into first from a stop sometimes, or at low speeds, but with the new gear oil (Neo somethingorother Super Expensive Sell A Limb Because It's Juice Squeezed From Crushed Up Ferrari's Gear Oil), it's had no issues at all. Aaron brought it in to get the cruise control TSB done, but no changes other than that.
If you're talking about the RX7? Yes, that has had issues, and is now owned by someone else. Damn car. =P I spent SO much time and money on it, and only got to drive it a few times. Grr. That, too, is my fault, though, since I just plain didn't have time for the thing. Or the money. The Volvo is also in new hands, now, and that had a couple of issues, but nothing major.
If you're talking about the RX7? Yes, that has had issues, and is now owned by someone else. Damn car. =P I spent SO much time and money on it, and only got to drive it a few times. Grr. That, too, is my fault, though, since I just plain didn't have time for the thing. Or the money. The Volvo is also in new hands, now, and that had a couple of issues, but nothing major.
well ive driven replicas p5. i dont think its that bad of a car, but i dont have to deal with it on a daily basis. the suspension feels great, but the car doenst feel as connected as my civic. it feels alot slower than it is. it handles well. i think it would make a good commuter, but im not giving up my stupid honda for one any time soon.
Replica said:
Comparing against Honda motors is not comparing against average. Honda motors are unique in the industry in a lot of ways... especially when you start getting into the J-Spec motors... so comparison against that is by no means fair or average. My point in listing that grouping was a fair number of those vehicles are very common, or a bit above average yet all have rather significant engine and build issues. The P5's don't suffer anywhere near those levels of issues, so I wouldn't be calling the P5 below average unless you plan to start saying those motors are all the bottom basement or something.
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he is filled w/ a vast amount of knowledge eh?
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