So Boosting Our MSP's is not good..??
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Or normal driving and maintenance will rule and there shall be much rejoicing when they pass the 100k mile mark at 12PSI.All Boost said:
And the Lord said, "Let there be 12 PSI" and he saw that it was good. The book of ZOOM, Turbonicus, Chapter 1 verse 12.
ok im sure smart ass ansews will follow but im lost i searched this board day and night when i got my msp in june and 9-10 psi was the agreed safe boost to run with no other mods has this changed has there been 20 blown motors since i last visited this fine place 3 months ago cause im finally get my mbc this month and if the new agreed "safe" psi is 7 ill just piss the money away on touch up paint to fix the bad mazda paint job
yeah, people arround here all of a sudden got together and shitted their pants cause of 2 blown engines.
and i'm sure that people that blew them had more done to them than what they say. pretty sure boost was higher.
it's like a frigin negative curtain has been pulled over these boards cause of some people's stupidity.
and i'm sure that people that blew them had more done to them than what they say. pretty sure boost was higher.
it's like a frigin negative curtain has been pulled over these boards cause of some people's stupidity.
I agree
FCD is there for a reason, i hit it a few times after the installation of the boost controller, and after that never went above 9psi ,same plugs form the fac. And have been keeping it at 8psi for normal driving conditions. I have yet to have a problem (knock on wood) but Im not racing everything on the streets and red lining my car all the time eaither. My car dose feel like it misses out when accelerating thowe.
FCD is there for a reason, i hit it a few times after the installation of the boost controller, and after that never went above 9psi ,same plugs form the fac. And have been keeping it at 8psi for normal driving conditions. I have yet to have a problem (knock on wood) but Im not racing everything on the streets and red lining my car all the time eaither. My car dose feel like it misses out when accelerating thowe.
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The car was designed to run at whatever boost is set at. If you up the boost without changing the fuel delivery system, what do you expect? You are going to run lean and over time will ruin your engine.
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just remember that you could still get ping/knock before you hit the fuel cut...
ThrillRide
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apparently someone doesn't have an MSP PCM (ECU).Brian MP5T said:
Well Joe pretty much blew this argument to s*** about a year ago so please guess again. Even at 12PSI everday now for a close to a year my tailpipe is covered with soot. Imperical no, this is not a valid measurement but Joe did do proper measurements and it was so rich even at crazy boost (upwards of 21PSI) he released the FPR. After the flash the amount of fuel has hardly been touched and it was just a bump in timing advanced no less so lean is really not in the MSP's vocabulary. This is the primary reason I want a piggyback or standalone because this car's fuel maps are so ******* RICH! I am no expert but many on this board are and they have been saying the same thing for a year, less fuel and more power, for the MSP is "pig" rich.
Petey Turbo
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Actually I was being sarcastic, and it was my fault for not making that clear, my bad..But you really should think before you start calling people names , it makes you look like a child and people will know you are definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer..I'm not selling the car and I do feel fine with the depreciation factor, however it just annoys me that mazda didn't strengthen the bottom end of an N/A motor before just slapping a turbo on there..yashooa said:Your New name should be PeteyCrackhead with new MSP's going for 15,500$ and you asking 16 for your "soiled" version.
Now if you are willing to take 13,500 maybe someone will buy it
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yashooa said:
Ok here it is, I'm only talking about under load...when it counts. An engine can run 99.9% of it's life but the one time it runs lean at wide open throttle can cause it to fail. Do you think I just say this s*** for the **** of it? The only point of my last post was...
Mazda set it at "Whatever 6.5 to 7.0 Psi" They thought it couldn't handle more. Why would you expect that it would.
You guys are buying a car and overboosting it from what it was designed to be set at. Obvioulsy some of you are having problems and even blowing engines? If Mazda wanted to design an EVO they would have put forged internals and a bunch of really slick R&D into the MSP. Plus they would have charged more $$$$
Relax guy, don't be poopy. If you blow your engine, you will be the only one responsable for it.
Later...Brian
Why don't you guys just get some nice bolt ons, enjoy the gains, and maybe rebuild the engine and prep it for boost properly? Do what Mazda didn't, and get some stronger internals, fuel and engine management, and then you can get the lovely boost controller....
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wrd, just boost stock boostshaolin said:
for now until you put in at least pistons and rods. i know im goin to.
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