So Boosting Our MSP's is not good..??

[yashooa]

Re: Swoosh...Boom!

I agree, unless you have looked into the "weakest link problem". Intercooler, fuel, spiking. Etc. Once you have these problems covered, you should be able to take it 7 or 8 Daily and 10 -12 for track day. Expect to blow motors, the stock set-up wasn't designed for you guys to start playing with boost. That's why it doesn't come with a boost controller. If you want Lotus or Porche performance from your car you really should just go buy one.

The Protege was designed as a fun way to get you to work in the morning, not to pass jet planes.

Later...Brian

If you boost, you have to improve the design that Mazda has made to compensate for the added load that you are asking of your internals and drivetrain.

You are a true Specimen of the Homo Arts aren't you.
TARD---COUGH---TARD.

 

[yashooa]

In the end, the bottom end (rods in particular) are good for no more than 230-240whp (105mph trap speeds). Not bad, mid-13s capable. But then you're at the limit. Proper tuning or not. No one can dispute that. Many would be happy there, but I personally wouldn't be for long. That's why I'm selling my car. Don't feel like spending $3500+ to build a Protege motor. The next car is also a 2 liter 4cyl that comes with a T25, but it's stock bottom end is capable of 475+rwhp and doesn't have a retarted ECU... and is RWD.

Yes, I bought the wrong car to play with, but it was fun while it lasted.

Ah so the wise one speaketh. I agree with this completely.

 

[t3ase]

I am the walrus.

 

[pluto316]

In the end, the bottom end (rods in particular) are good for no more than 230-240whp (105mph trap speeds). Not bad, mid-13s capable. But then you're at the limit. Proper tuning or not. No one can dispute that. Many would be happy there, but I personally wouldn't be for long. That's why I'm selling my car. Don't feel like spending $3500+ to build a Protege motor. The next car is also a 2 liter 4cyl that comes with a T25, but it's stock bottom end is capable of 475+rwhp and doesn't have a retarted ECU... and is RWD.

Yes, I bought the wrong car to play with, but it was fun while it lasted.

Keep your MSP while you work on your super car, atleast that's what I am doing.

 

[InsidiousMSP]

Keep your MSP while you work on your super car, atleast that's what I am doing.

These $400/mo payments will only get in the way of the new project.

 

[Mike R]

Try some forged internals at 8.2:1 and proper fuel management. Then play with the engine boost, you will end up finding the next weak link...Tranny,Driveshafs... $$$

Later...Brian

If you want Ferrari performance, you have to pay Ferrari prices.

Not really. Try 2.3L Ford. If you know what you are doing 11's on stock block and head is easy. They are fairly cheap too. Of course they came with forged 8:1 pistons and the bottom end is damn near indestructable. The downside is the body usually is a pinto or fox mustang.

 

[Petey Turbo]

I dont see spending over 3 grand just to do your bottom end..I agree with the part about buying the wrong car though,I feel as though I did also but I got a GREAT deal on it, I think I paid less then anyone..I miss my mitsubishi's one day I will get another Galant VR4,but now I have a new car to drive while I build my single turbo 85 GSL-SE and my monthly payments are under 300 and insurance under 100 so thats a plus..I will build the bottom end with forged peices and hopefully stay under 2 grand, thats what I hope anyway..If not,anyone want a lazer blue 03.5 MSP with 800 miles for 16grand??:mad:

 

[t3ase]

Buying the wrong car? Apparently you people didn't research the car *at all* before making your decision. You just saw turbo and assumed.

Blame it on yourself, not Mazda.

 

[DiscreetSpeed]

ima tell you ALL what i think
LETS TAKE IT FLAME WARS(flame) (upyours)

 

[Dr.Sound]

Buying the wrong car? Apparently you people didn't research the car *at all* before making your decision. You just saw turbo and assumed.

Blame it on yourself, not Mazda.

agreed

 

[yashooa]

I am the walrus.

Coo Coo ca choo.

 

[yashooa]

I dont see spending over 3 grand just to do your bottom end..I agree with the part about buying the wrong car though,I feel as though I did also but I got a GREAT deal on it, I think I paid less then anyone..I miss my mitsubishi's one day I will get another Galant VR4,but now I have a new car to drive while I build my single turbo 85 GSL-SE and my monthly payments are under 300 and insurance under 100 so thats a plus..I will build the bottom end with forged peices and hopefully stay under 2 grand, thats what I hope anyway..If not,anyone want a lazer blue 03.5 MSP with 800 miles for 16grand??:mad:

Your New name should be PeteyCrackhead with new MSP's going for 15,500$ and you asking 16 for your "soiled" version.
Now if you are willing to take 13,500 maybe someone will buy it Oh feel the pain of depreciation.

 

[VA PROTEGE]

Im boosting 12PSI with the INJEN cai, apex 3"cat and downpipe, with the Ion FMIC. My car seems to to be doing good so far.

 

[Brian MP5T]

Re: Re: Swoosh...Boom!

You are a true Specimen of the Homo Arts aren't you.
TARD---COUGH---TARD.

Grow Up Butt Pirate.

 

[Brian MP5T]

Not really. Try 2.3L Ford. If you know what you are doing 11's on stock block and head is easy. They are fairly cheap too. Of course they came with forged 8:1 pistons and the bottom end is damn near indestructable. The downside is the body usually is a pinto or fox mustang.

I think you are losing the focus of the original post.

later...Brian

 

[Brian MP5T]

Im boosting 12PSI with the INJEN cai, apex 3"cat and downpipe, with the Ion FMIC. My car seems to to be doing good so far.

This isn't a flame.

That is what we have been saying from the start of this thread. The engine will take 12 PSI no problem, But the problem was longevity. It may take it, but will it take it over a long time.

Again... I am not flaming you. Just useing your post as an example. Boost Is Good!!

 

[shaolin]

I just wish I could run stock settings, and boost more when I need it to. EBC would be so nice, if only there was a way to tune the POS ECU...

 

[Dr.Sound]

well, they have the 2 stage MBC's with an in-cabin switch.
uses a solenoid.
u can have a stock setting of 6psi, then flip a button and have 9psi.a buddy of mine has it on his MSP5.

 

[Brian MP5T]

I just wish I could run stock settings, and boost more when I need it to. EBC would be so nice, if only there was a way to tune the POS ECU...

Anything worth doing is worth doing well. If it were easy, then it would not be unique because everyone would be doing it.

I think Modding is an art form. Balance between HP and Longevity.

There are easy ways to get around the ECU and Injectors...

SDS-EIC-2

http://www.sdsefi.com/eic.html

It is boost dependant and user set.

 

[All Boost]

I think Brian MP5T has the right idea when he says, people are no problems at the present time, but there could be longevity issues.

Bottom line here is that with any motor, people will try to get the most power out of the setup. Motors will be blown, tears will be shed, and many people will learn from this.