Sillicon IC pipe???

[SpeedBeaver]

http://www.ravspec.com/pdetails.asp?itemID=10294

Has anyone tried this?

And I'm wondering, why did they only did the "hot side" pipe and not the "cold pipe" too? Is it because of the proximity of the engine that would produce too much heat?

I don't want to start a neverending debate so please stay to the facts (mesured temps, materials properties, etc.)

I'm just curious to know if a "silicon pipes" kit would efficient.

Thanks

 

[terbow]

hmm. interesting.

 

[4001]

I dont know much about silicon but if shoudlnt heat up like steel and IF it doesnt expaned when heated It should be atleast some type of improvement over the stock pipes

 

[SpeedBeaver]

I dont know much about silicon but if shoudlnt heat up like steel and IF it doesnt expaned when heated It should be atleast some type of improvement over the stock pipes

Then I suppose that if the proper clamps are used then the expand would not be a problem.... am I right? Anyway, Silicone hoses are used to connect CAIs to the turbo..

 

[CustomMSP]

That's actually a very good material for IC "pipes" That type of silicone is the high quality thin 3layer type and it doesn't expand much. They seem to be only good for short distances though. Plus with this you would eliminate all leaks

 

[terbow]

if it comes in black consider it ordered.

 

[Shadow102]

the problem is cost...silicon costs alot more than steel pipes. 1 90degree silicon elbow can be upwards of $50.

 

[4001]

the problem is cost...silicon costs alot more than steel pipes. 1 90degree silicon elbow can be upwards of $50.

The one pipe cost $129 if they were to make the other one and was the same price thats well under the price of turbohoses set for $400

 

[4001]

That's actually a very good material for IC "pipes" That type of silicone is the high quality thin 3layer type and it doesn't expand much. They seem to be only good for short distances though. Plus with this you would eliminate all leaks

I dont understand, You say its good but only good for short distances, what makes it less capable for longer drives compared to the stock pipes

 

[4001]

Then I suppose that if the proper clamps are used then the expand would not be a problem.... am I right? Anyway, Silicone hoses are used to connect CAIs to the turbo..

I would have to think so, but im in the same boat as you Im not a pro on silicon piping but it would seem that it would be an improvement over the stock pipe

 

[SpeedBeaver]

I dont understand, You say its good but only good for short distances, what makes it less capable for longer drives compared to the stock pipes

because if they're too long it's own weight will make it bend, like a rope... CustomMSP didn't refer to the drive length. but the length of the hose from point A to point B.

 

[CustomMSP]

I dont understand, You say its good but only good for short distances, what makes it less capable for longer drives compared to the stock pipes

I should've said short length hehe...my mistake

 

[RX]

I wonder if you could attach a BOV to that silicone hose. Prolly not.

 

[CustomMSP]

It has to come with a nipple for the stock BPV. What they do is stick a metal pipe in the silicone nipple with some of it sticking out so you're able to attach the BPV hose. I'm sure you can stick an aftermarket flange in the silicone nipple as well.

 

[4001]

I should've said short length hehe...my mistake

Its cool just a misunderstanding, I gotcha now.

 

[SpeedBeaver]

It has to come with a nipple for the stock BPV. What they do is stick a metal pipe in the silicone nipple with some of it sticking out so you're able to attach the BPV hose. I'm sure you can stick an aftermarket flange in the silicone nipple as well.

Like custom said, I'm pretty sure it's fesable. Check what Perrin developped for WRXs (turbo inlet replacement pipe) you can clearly see the metal parts:

 

[spacemonkey]

When I talked to forge a long time ago they said that the cold side will be expensive to make since it will be molded from the stock cold pipe which has a million bends.

I sugested making a more direct flow but never got back to them aobut it. Since george is gone.

Problem is that the silicone is not deisnged or layed here...it is shiped to England to be deisnged. So they would probally have to make a replica out of steel and ship it over.

 

[4001]

I dont think the cold pipe is absolutly necessary, Im sure it wouldnt hurt but the turbo to IC pipe seems to make the difference

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1204623&postcount=11

 

[SpeedBeaver]

Personnaly, I was looking at this option as a "fix" to the stock pipes sealing rubber bands problem when you put an aftermarket SMIC... For the cold pipe, maybe 2 alluminum pipes and 3 couplers (1x90 and 2x45 degrees) would do the job... If you look at the piping iON used for their FMIC (except the bend thowards the drivers wheel) I think it could work...

 

[CustomMSP]

Personnaly, I was looking at this option as a "fix" to the stock pipes sealing rubber bands problem when you put an aftermarket SMIC... For the cold pipe, maybe 2 alluminum pipes and 3 couplers (1x90 and 2x45 degrees) would do the job... If you look at the piping iON used for their FMIC (except the bend thowards the drivers wheel) I think it could work...

Depending on which couplers you buy, it could be a nice and cheap alternative to hard pipe kits.