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[gimpo2]

i really am curious about the different gains between the shorty header that keeps the first cat and the fullsized header that gets rid of the 1st cat.

 

[cable43]

i think he meant it sarcastically. as in, "**** you because you have turbo and i dont."

after those pics, i hate you too.

I just hate people named brian!

 

[pluto316]

the point is, compare the car that had the full length header to the silver one with the Wagner shorty. similar mods, pretty much the same results. which means it is almost as effective as a full length header.

but the real reason I would suggest a shorty header is the fact that everyone I know with a full length header (basically ANYTHING that replaces the pirmary cat) their exhaust note goes to s***. really sounds like crap.

What kind of header did the non shorty car have? Can you post a link?

 

[Mr. Win]

i just installed an obx today and i must say i really like that header. I personally have the ractive and the obx is 5 times better. We kept it clean and it bronzed totally even and it looks excellent.

 

[RyanJayG]

What kind of header did the non shorty car have? Can you post a link?

Control Car: (beau's)
Injen CAI, Megan Cat-back exhaust
105.61 whp : 115.41 wtq

1st header car:
Injen CAI, Custom 4-2-1 header, custom 2.25" midpipe, Racing Beat Catback
106.3 whp : 111.13 wtq

2nd header car:
Injen CAI, Wagner shorty header, Mazdaspeed axleback
111.31 whp : 121.94 wtq

now, you could say that the "custom" header isn't the best design, but that is up to you

 

[Protege2K]

My header.

 

[Mr. Win]

what im saying... doesnt make any damn sense. the first cat is filled with s***. I punched through them when i my turbo kit hooked to it.

Control Car: (beau's)
Injen CAI, Megan Cat-back exhaust
105.61 whp : 115.41 wtq

1st header car:
Injen CAI, Custom 4-2-1 header, custom 2.25" midpipe, Racing Beat Catback
106.3 whp : 111.13 wtq

2nd header car:
Injen CAI, Wagner shorty header, Mazdaspeed axleback
111.31 whp : 121.94 wtq

now, you could say that the "custom" header isn't the best design, but that is up to you

 

[fLyPiNoY7]

ive had my wagner shorty on for the past 5 months and after i installed it, there were some very noticeable gains...i dunno how much but i really could feel the difference...

 

[RyanJayG]

what im saying... doesnt make any damn sense. the first cat is filled with s***. I punched through them when i my turbo kit hooked to it.

I know what the first cat is like, I have it off my car right now... and even though it doesn't make sense as to WHY it is like this, the numbers on that dyno are accurate.

maybe "car 1" is sick, or has a badly designed 4-2-1... those are the questions I can't answer. but I can show that the Wagoner header car made 5 whp and 6 wtq more than Beau's car. and Beau has a full cat-back while the shorty car had just an axleback (which is pretty much just a token effort)

 

[Mr. Win]

very good point ryan... its still hard to take in. It'll prob never happen by someone independent but some before after dynos would be nice.

As for now ill give it credit.