SCCA Guys would this be legal

FC3s Boy

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2006 forester XT, 95 eclipse 03 protege5
the big brake kit i have, it is all mazda parts (msp calipers and rotors) would it be legal in the street class? It is on a 02 P5
 

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By themselves, the brakes would be legal for STX but not STS. The same goes for the midpipe, unless the stock catalytic convertors are used and mounted in exactly the same locations.

Things which keep you out of STX and STS: Carbon fiber hood, cams, flywheel, clutch. The midpipe is okay for STX only if it has a catalytic converter mounted within 6" of the stock location.

You can run Street Mod, or possibly Prepared.
 
Orthonormal said:
By themselves, the brakes would be legal for STX but not STS. The same goes for the midpipe, unless the stock catalytic convertors are used and mounted in exactly the same locations.

Things which keep you out of STX and STS: Carbon fiber hood, cams, flywheel, clutch. The midpipe is okay for STX only if it has a catalytic converter mounted within 6" of the stock location.

You can run Street Mod, or possibly Prepared.
yea i will remove the CF hood, as for the cams and flywheel i doubt they could tell, I have a few guys that could use the bigger brakes for sure- thanks for the info
 
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FC3s Boy said:
yea i will remove the CF hood, as for the cams and flywheel i doubt they could tell, I have a few guys that could use the bigger brakes for sure- thanks for the info

I think posting on a public forum might give them some idea.
 
Vanimaniac said:
Gonna have to agree with that statement.

Van
I third. There's no huge purses in SCCA. You race, really, to beat yourself. Cheating like this (and that is what it is) goes against everything Auto-x is about.
Just run your bracket and have fun! Y'know?
 
FC3s Boy said:
yea i will remove the CF hood, as for the cams and flywheel i doubt they could tell, I have a few guys that could use the bigger brakes for sure- thanks for the info
That's a crappy attitude to have. It's one thing to run in a class with illegal minor cosmetic mods (like the wrong shift knob in Stock, for example), it's another thing to run in a class with illegal go-fast parts (like cams and a flywheel).
 
geez guys i run in the ITCC (wheel to wheel) I have some guys here that run scca and were wondering about the brakes, that is all
 
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It's a decision everyone has to make. I have a J spec cam sitting at home, but if I install it, I'll have to compete in a class that I don't want to be in. STS is hard enough as it it. And I compete w/ and against friends, so I wouldn't want to cheat. My local club is the only group that I do autoxes w/ that doesn't run classes. So, my turboed Miata friend just does those autoxes since he is not ready to even consider attempting SM2.
 
katya4me said:
It's a decision everyone has to make. I have a J spec cam sitting at home, but if I install it, I'll have to compete in a class that I don't want to be in. STS is hard enough as it it. And I compete w/ and against friends, so I wouldn't want to cheat. My local club is the only group that I do autoxes w/ that doesn't run classes. So, my turboed Miata friend just does those autoxes since he is not ready to even consider attempting SM2.
Seat time > No Seat Time, no matter what class you're in.

~brian
 
thats weird, they stuck me in G-stock

cat back exhaust
short ram intake
flywheel
clutch
short shifter
plugs
wires
 
cat back exhaust---stock legal
short ram intake----moves you to STS
flywheel---moves you to STS
clutch---depends on type
short shifter---moves you to STS
plugs---heh---irrelivant
wires---probably STS

The deciding factor is the clutch. If it's anything more than the stock equivilant it puts you in F-SP

I'm pretty sure thats right.
 
xelderx said:
cat back exhaust---stock legal
short ram intake----moves you to STS
flywheel---moves you to STS
clutch---depends on type
short shifter---moves you to STS
plugs---heh---irrelivant
wires---probably STS

The deciding factor is the clutch. If it's anything more than the stock equivilant it puts you in F-SP

I'm pretty sure thats right.
flywheel and clutch are both OEM mazda MSP assemblies
 
xelderx said:
The flywheel is legal in STS/STX. Cams put you in Prepared I believe.
No-sorry. Flywheel is NOT legal in Street Touring (STS/STX/STU/STS2) None. And neither are the cams.

But hey, if you wanna cheat for that $1.00 trophy.. that's your perogative.

(Note: Only OEM replacement Flywheel and Cams are allowed.. if they're the same spec that came on your car as delievered, they'd be allowed.. any change from the spec that they were delivered, is not legal)

I just LOVE misinformation in auto-x threads.. so when you show up to events and someone says they're not legal... you b**** and moan that "you read it on the internet so it's gotta be true" and "that org sucks becuase you're right."
 
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Imp said:
No-sorry. Flywheel is NOT legal in Street Touring (STS/STX/STU/STS2) None. And neither are the cams.

But hey, if you wanna cheat for that $1.00 trophy.. that's your perogative.
Ah sorry...just went back and checked and you are correct. The flywheel goes to FSP. I keep getting the rules mixed up since I've had to race the car in 3 different classes this year. I couldn't decide whether I wanted to run R compounds or not. Thanks for the correction and for sounding like my father.
 
Also ...FSP isn't a good class for the Protege's. Nationally speaking...STS isn't either. I'm looking for the SEB to seperate STS like they did SP.
 
TXMazdaSpeeder said:
flywheel and clutch are both OEM mazda MSP assemblies
Doesn't matter. The only clutch and flywheel allowed in STS or STX is the OEM or OEM replacement part for your specific vehicle. You can't stick MSP parts in an MP3 any more than you could stick them in an RX-8.

Plugs and wires are routine maintenance and are irrelevant, even in Stock.
 

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