reworked stock turbo

Man dont screw with me tonight. Im not in the mood...(argh)

I think 15psi was where Ken tuned their ms6 to 329.

yes sir. (yupnope) :D i thought they were near 22psi though? I dont know. I'll have to digg up that thread. good question in all seriousness


answering with quote from a site i found right quick:

Lag

A lag is sometimes felt by the driver of a turbocharged vehicle as a delay between pushing on the accelerator pedal and feeling the turbo kick-in. This is symptomatic of the time taken for the exhaust system driving the turbine to come to high pressure and for the turbine rotor to overcome its rotational inertia and reach the speed necessary to supply boost pressure. The directly-driven compressor in a supercharger does not suffer this problem. Conversely on light loads or at low RPM a turbocharger supplies less boost and the engine is more efficient than a supercharged engine.

Lag can be reduced by reducing the rotational inertia of the turbine, for example by using lighter parts to allow the spin-up to happen more quickly. Ceramic turbines are a big help in this direction. Another way to reduce lag is to change the aspect ratio of the turbine by reducing the diameter and increasing the gas-flow path-length. Increasing the upper-deck air pressure and improving the wastegate response help but there are cost increases and reliability disadvantages that car manufacturers are not happy about. Lag is also reduced by using a precision bearing rather than a fluid bearing, this reduces friction rather than rotational inertia but contributes to faster acceleration of the turbo's rotating assembly.

Some car makers combat lag by using two small turbos (like Toyota, Maserati and Audi). A typical arrangement for this is to have one turbo active across the entire rev range of the engine and one coming on-line at higher RPM. Being such small units they do not suffer from excessive lag and having the second turbo operating at a higher RPM range allows it to get to full rotational speed before it is required.

Lag is not to be confused with the turbo spooling up, however many publications still make this basic mistake. The spool-up time of a turbo system describes the minimum turbo RPM at which the turbo is physically able to supply the requested boost level. Newer turbocharger and engine developments have caused spool-times to steadily decline to where day-to-day use feels perfectly natural. Putting your foot down at 1200 engine rpm and having no boost until 2000 rpm is spool-up and not lag.

I believe its new jersey.
Its modern performance inc. that does these turbo upgrades.
hopefully ken or somebody comes out with something new, and pretty fast.

I'll let Ken disclose that information when he's ready to. Cool?
 
I believe its new jersey.
Its modern performance inc. that does these turbo upgrades.
hopefully ken or somebody comes out with something new, and pretty fast.

yes. if you want to contact him now, his name is Nick at Modern Performance in West Long Branch, NJ. he is not big on forum or internet advertising these days but he'll do the work.

we'll have our gameplan worked out here this week if people want to play ball with me.
 
18 psi....... 329whp / 394 trq..... with gt3071r. They ran out of fuel after.

On the ms3 that would be around 350-360whp on 18psi. Perfect for daily driving and then turn it up a notch at the track on 22psi and some 110 octane gas 400whp would be a hoot!
 
someone just needs to hurry up and put a damn kit together. im gettin impatient.

Upgrading the stock will be a nice thing but i havent seen any concerned about the EGTs going thru the roof with higher boost pressure on a modded stocker. Just a little thing we use to run into in my SRT days. please discuss
 
i got off the phone with a shop today that specializes in KKK and Hitachi Warner turbo upgrades. they will be taking measurements this week of the turbo supplied by mrlilguy.
 
if the turbo gets reworked, that intails new seals and such so we don't have to get our bad stock one replaced under warranty
 
my understanding lag is caused by a combanation of insuficient gas flow at low rpm, inertia, and mechanicle loss. isnuficent gas flow is the biggest contrubiter to lag
 
well, in about 3 weeks i'll have another turbo for sale if anybody is curious.

My turbo is smoking it up like Bob Marley... but since you're making shameless offers to the public with no pics....mine will be available too:)

Im sure it would make a nice "reworked turbo". Just with a little less brain cells....lol
 
My turbo is smoking it up like Bob Marley... but since you're making shameless offers to the public with no pics....mine will be available too:)

Im sure it would make a nice "reworked turbo". Just with a little less brain cells....lol


ha! you're crazy. check your PMs ;D
 

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