Ractive header

[02PROTEGE2.0]

i just purchased a ractive header off ebay... the ebst thing about it is im paying 60 shipped... because it was a 99 cent no reserve store thing... and since it ended at like 10 30... no one else was there to make bids.

i searched ractive header and didnt find much. according to the pic its a 4-2-1 header but ive read these are 4-1? i dont care either way... it will be better than stock.

so my question is.... what should i know?
can i install this in my own drive way?
i've read about fitting problems?
are these major or just a slight inconvenience? (sp?)

thanks ahead of time... i knwo there are several knowledgeable members on these forums and i thank you for your help.

 

[zoompastu]

pleeeeaase let us know if that ebay store screws you or if you get a steal. I checked into it and i'll have the extra cash to do the same. (Student+strict wife=not much modding lately)(encourage

 

[sam1]

you'll need a cel fix for sure. spark plug non-fowler is the best & easiest way to go, imo.

 

[02PROTEGE2.0]

isnt that if theres another bung for the second o2 sensor? i didnt think this had that.

 

[02PROTEGE2.0]

bump for an important question... this thing comes saturday....

 

[Rac3rX]

bump for an important question... this thing comes saturday....

If it doesnt, get one put in AFTER the 2nd Cat and extend the o2 sensor to go into it with No CEL fix installed. Thats the best way to go, if ever you remove the cat or gut it you can then install the non foulers to both o2 sensors and be fine.. If it has a 2nd Bung no need and just do the non fouler trick.

If it doesnt have a 2nd bung and you dont want to budget the instalation of a bung you can try the Cel Fix that uses thhe capacitor and resistor & hope it works, it does for some and doesnt for others READ the whole thread to find the best capacitor & resistor to use.

 

[02PROTEGE2.0]

will my car be drivable until i can do the non fouler? i may not be able to get to that till later next week.

 

[Kansei]

The ractive has no place to put your second oxygen sensor so you will need to just run without the sensor for a while. I did for like 6 months and it was fine.

Just get a bung welded into your midpipe AFTER the 2nd cat and then stick your sensor in there and it will be fine, no CEL fix of any kind needed.

 

[FunkyBuddha]

i just purchased a ractive header off ebay... the ebst thing about it is im paying 60 shipped... because it was a 99 cent no reserve store thing... and since it ended at like 10 30... no one else was there to make bids.

i searched ractive header and didnt find much. according to the pic its a 4-2-1 header but ive read these are 4-1? i dont care either way... it will be better than stock.

so my question is.... what should i know?
can i install this in my own drive way?
i've read about fitting problems?
are these major or just a slight inconvenience? (sp?)

thanks ahead of time... i knwo there are several knowledgeable members on these forums and i thank you for your help.

4-1 design
you need the CEL eliminator for the FIRST o2 sensor
would be wise to get new gaskets to install (2 of them for each end)
slight rattle with oilpan but that can be fixed with minor adjustments
not stainless steel - so get it ceramic coated

 

[Rac3rX]

The ractive has no place to put your second oxygen sensor so you will need to just run without the sensor for a while. I did for like 6 months and it was fine.

Just get a bung welded into your midpipe AFTER the 2nd cat and then stick your sensor in there and it will be fine, no CEL fix of any kind needed.

Yup if its got no Bung thats your best option.

But reset theECU when your CEL pops up (It will) because it runs crazy rich and sucks gas like a Motherfucker.

 

[FunkyBuddha]

Yup if its got no Bung thats your best option.

But reset theECU when your CEL pops up (It will) because it runs crazy rich and sucks gas like a Motherfucker.

The header sucks gas or having the CEL on? My gas mileage has not changed at all and I've had the header for over a year.

 

[Rac3rX]

The header sucks gas or having the CEL on? My gas mileage has not changed at all and I've had the header for over a year.

Big Diff when the CEL comes on. I noticed the gas go down FAST before I put the non-fouler on and then go back to normal after (It takes a little more gas then before but nothing like when the CELwas on). Also the car is MUCH quicker after a few hundred klicks with No CEL after a ECU reset.

Also people with A/F guages have confirmed the Car runs rich when the CEL for the missing cat comes on. Dont you have one?

 

[02PROTEGE2.0]

so this is what ive gathered.... make the spark plug type non fouler for the first o2 sensor, and make a bung at the mid pipe as soon as i can... my car will run fine but probably a little rich... which isnt too bad considering a/f maps on dynos show our cars run very lean for about 50% of the rev range.

thanks alot guys! you've been a huge help...

correct me if im wrong on any of this tho...

 

[Kansei]

You don't need anything for the first O2 sensor. The first sensor decides air/fuel ratios so you don't want to mess with the readings on that.

Not having the 2nd O2 sensor in shouldn't affect much considering that its purpose is to tell the ECU if the primary cat is working for emissions reasons. You'll get a CEL without the 2nd sensor plugged in but that's about it.

EDIT: read the above posts and just wanted to add that I got 34mpg hauling stuff up to my apartment with a mountain bike on top of the car last summer. That was with no 2nd O2 sensor plugged in.

I don't see why everyone messes with nonfoulders, MIL eliminators, O2 simulators, etc. The only reason to need any of that is if you are running catless or if you put your 2nd O2 sensor before the 2nd cat (like if you put it in the extra bung on the OBX header).

 

[rednecks_r_us]

4-1 design
you need the CEL eliminator for the FIRST o2 sensor
would be wise to get new gaskets to install (2 of them for each end)
slight rattle with oilpan but that can be fixed with minor adjustments
not stainless steel - so get it ceramic coated

Exactly


I have the ractive header. Its a 4-1 design. It only has one o2 bung. Mine fits fine but is really close to the oil pan.

I got a MAM midpipe with the o2 bung behind the cat. I extended the o2 wires and have not gotten a CEL.

I HIGHLY reccomend www.jet-hot.com before you ever install it. Jet hot is worth the money. Rust will kill this header in a short time and jet hot ceramic coating will prevent that.

http://mazdasports.com/joomsmf/gallery/v/members/rednecks_r_us/DSCN0503+_Medium_.JPG.html

 

[Rac3rX]

I don't see why everyone messes with nonfoulders, MIL eliminators, O2 simulators, etc. The only reason to need any of that is if you are running catless or if you put your 2nd O2 sensor before the 2nd cat (like if you put it in the extra bung on the OBX header).

We are not. As explained before because the Ractive headers are what he is installing & they dont have a second Bung his best option is to get a bung installed after the 2nd cat and extend the 2nd 02 sensor to there with no Cel fix installed.

Also as stated before, its been proven the car runs rich with the CEL on, (THe one from removing the Cat with No CEL fix) reguardless if its slight the car is not running as good as when the CEL is off. Soooooooooo.....

 

[Kansei]

Also as stated before, its been proven the car runs rich with the CEL on, (THe one from removing the Cat with No CEL fix) reguardless if its slight the car is not running as good as when the CEL is off. Soooooooooo.....

My car ran rich before header, with header and the CEL, and continues to run rich with the sensor back in place after my high flow header. I guess I must be the only one, I thought I remembered everyone saying how damn rich these cars ran. I could clean my exhaust tip a few times a day and every time it would be black (trust me I've done it).

I should really get a unichip or something.

 

[Rac3rX]

My car ran rich before header, with header and the CEL, and continues to run rich with the sensor back in place after my high flow header. I guess I must be the only one, I thought I remembered everyone saying how damn rich these cars ran. I could clean my exhaust tip a few times a day and every time it would be black (trust me I've done it).

I should really get a unichip or something.

Do you have a A/F guage?

The cars do run notoriously rich, but with that CEL they Run even richer. I think the Unichips maps are only for MSP's.

 

[Kansei]

I guess I maybe lucked out that it didn't negatively affect my gas mileage then.

I want a car that runs like my friend's 04 V6 Tiburon where with intake/header/full exhaust his exhaust tips are still blingin stainless steel, they've never needed cleaning.

 

[Rac3rX]

I guess I maybe lucked out that it didn't negatively affect my gas mileage then.

I want a car that runs like my friend's 04 V6 Tiburon where with intake/header/full exhaust his exhaust tips are still blingin stainless steel, they've never needed cleaning.

Are you assuming your running overly rich because of a dirty exhaust tip?