probably bs but info about 2010 ms3 from dealer

When I bought a Miata back in 1999, I had to tell the saleman what kind of car he was about to sell me. He was fairly new and didn't know jack (squat). I got a good deal on that car. lol
 
I just googled that Focus RS. Holy crap! Is that thing for real? From FORD!?!?

Man its going to be a sad day when a stock focus can beat a MS3.... or anything for that matter. I have owned a bunch of fords, and while they were ok cars, none were ever very fast. I hope this thing doesn't come to the states.

As for the AWD on the 2010 MS3 its a mixed bag for me. It would be nice to get the extra performance, but I like getting 30+ mpg on the highway.

And dealers are just a bunch of d-bags. One dealer I was talking to over the phone, who was supposed to know EVERYTHING (according to him) about mazda told me the 2009 MS3s weren't out when I was looking to replace my flooded one. I found this interesting as i had just seen one in person at another dealers lot!

I hope they do bring the focus rs to the states, that's a great car and is an icon over in the UK. They are rock solid and can handle power better than our ms3. I don't think my next car is going to be another economy turbo car though, either the 370z or I might step it up and get a z06, but the RS is a nice little ford.

Also, I highly doubt mazda will try to go out and compete with the sti's and evo's, it's easier for mazda to beat the srt4's, ss's and wrx's. 300hp with launch control and no lift shift would be a monstor at the track for fwd.
 
When I bought my car in 2007, the dealer told me that 2007 was the only model year to be released for the MS3. Having said that, don't believe anything they tell you.
 
i used to sell cars, and while most people will definitely talk out of their ass...some sales people don't.
in fact, honda (who i worked for) made their sales people take a class before a new car came out. they would run down all the specs and compare it to other vehicles in its class. then you would drive it.
idk if mazda does that
 
i used to sell cars, and while most people will definitely talk out of their ass...some sales people don't.
in fact, honda (who i worked for) made their sales people take a class before a new car came out. they would run down all the specs and compare it to other vehicles in its class. then you would drive it.
idk if mazda does that

Some mazda dealers do do, my salesperson told me he went to a class where they had the cx7 and a bunch of its competitors and got to drive all of them around and have a class on it. How much they know on future models such as a 2010 MS3 or even what the next mazdaspeed vehicle will be is unknown, he told me there is no word yet on what it will be.
 
my point was that they do this before the car is released. so perhaps, they might have gone to that class already. doubtful, but possible
 
This thread is funny. Mazda def undercut the STI/EVO market. The ms3 is a slightly different beast but going to all wheel drive and still compete pricewise will prob lose their niche. However this thread is funny about dealers. The salesman that sold me my car was the third place I tried. He was very knowledgable and genuine guy. No BS. Others can be so outragous in the things they say it's laughable.
 
I highly doubt the 2010 MS3 will be AWD but I won't be complaining if Mazda surprises us with one at that price point! I'd SERIOUSLY consider trading in my '08 for a 2011 model then.
 
I believe the 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 will break cover at either the Detroit auto show(NAIAS) or the New York auto show(NYIAS). The New York show is the last show of the circuit and good amount of big debuts have appeared there.
 
The salesperson that sold me mine was a GREAT guy. It was ME!!!!! HA HA HA HA and yes mazda sales people do have to take the same kind of tests about thier cars and the competitions cars. Its just that some guys that are what you would call " old school " sales guys are set in there ways and really dont give a s*** about the tests or the information. Some of them have been around since the old days when you could just feed the customer whatever bulls*** you wanted because there was none of this thing called the internet and information was not so readily available to people. Times have changed and so has the sales strategies but some guys just dont get it.
 
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