jumaaneface
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You do realize that for 600 the core came with the pipes?
Again I cut almost nothing plus took me under an hour to install. It meets my expectations therefore it was a steal
Pann Auto FMIC install?
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You do realize that for 600 the core came with the pipes?
Again I cut almost nothing plus took me under an hour to install. It meets my expectations therefore it was a steal
There's no cutting require to the bumper a small piece on support the thing I'm saying there's no way u would be able to build a high quality intercooler less then 700 to 800 even if u fab it urself I say minimum 800 plus a week to three down time doing it urself plus to have short routing piping would require to cut the rad support.... installing a bolt on intercooler kit Ull have down time I understand where ur coming from but at the same this is a dyno proven intercooler kit and not everybody drives their car once a year some people depend on them daily
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MP5T has 190,000 Km on the Odometer.. and is 10 Years old... I probably drive "My Summer car" more than you drive your Daily Driver... How much you drive a car has nothing to do with how reliable you need it to be.
I would not be happy with getting that for $600.00.
It is poorly thought out.. The Plumbing was routed by a 4th grader.
Look at how SEX, Dino made his kit..
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Have the hot pipe go threw on passenger side to shorten it up.... I mean it has a good design for low boost running a 2.25 inch hot pipe allows the turbo to pressurize the intercooler quick which make for long design and a short 2.5 in pipe allow the for a quick delivery to the throttle body never had spiking issues.. I liked it as much as my ion fmic on my blue speed the only thing I did like Better about the ion the piping was shorter and that the hot pipe was upgradable to a 2.5 to match the coldpipe cuz the ion core was 2.5 in and out I figure that's why they advertised it as a stage 1.... If 505zoom would've upgraded the hot pipe on the ion there probably be no difference between the mam in his dyno vid
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Lets see my blue msp I put 70k on in 2.5 year and my grey one has 172k now I drive quite a bit.... I wouldn't of bought the core u did I mean if ur so big at fabbing up parts should fab some better end tanks..... U can't see it from another person point of view who doesn't have money flowing out the ass but it is what it is I can say that the pann fmic is better then urs at the moment cuz ur hasn't never been dyno proven on a stock vechile as far as I know it has better result then urs at moment
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jumaaneface
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I drive my car over 100 miles a day on average. I've put 15000 in 3 months. I respect your build as it suits you. This suits me and may suit others.
I'm glad to hear that..... I think you bought a nice piece enjoy it
I usually never respond but I think it's just not right to call that junk when it is a quality bolt on part that is proven and comes with all the hardware u would need I'm not doubting Dino's work his car is sick and so is the mpt5 but that's just really negative respones.... I've owned the kit I didn't really like the routing but minus being convient it remove the stock side mount and came with all hardware so that doesn't dangle it accutally proformed well the coldpipe always felt cool to the touch never had spiking issues
my 2 cents
ive had 4 different fmic setups over the last 10 years on my msp.
worst was my BEGI kit as it costed me more than $800 cdn by the time i paid for customs. piping route was the same as your pan auto. functionally it was great, just the customs fees that screwed me over.
best was my ebay fmic setup that costed me under $200 shipped and has the shortest piping and took about 5 mins of cutting once I removed the rad. Clocking the turbo was required as well which was easy.
results from every setup was pretty much the exact same.
unless you are running hella boost it doesnt matter if you are running a perrin, a this or a that because pretty much ANY fmic can handle cooling whatever your mini-me T25 peeshooter turbo can throw at it all day so IMO it doesnt matter what setup you do on a stock motor, as stock motors are so weak you will never max out a fmic unless the core really is a tiny POS. I think the only fmic not worth installing would be those really old high boost fmics, if i come across a pic one day ill post it up.
the only thing that "sucks" about a fmic setup would be if your kit required you to remove crash bar IMO.
as far as piping goes, my current setup has shorter piping route than a stock SMIC. not really much of a "lag" difference. at least not in the real world, however I am happy I no longer have a "76 foot intake pipe" as brian put it as its ugly and eventually one day your coupling behind the bumper will pop or tear and then its a pain to get to it.
either way at least your SMIC junk is gone and you dont have to worry about intake temps/heat soak anytime soon. you did install an upgraded IC in the proper location which will give you obvious benefits regardless of having a longer piping route.
ive had 4 different fmic setups over the last 10 years on my msp.
worst was my BEGI kit as it costed me more than $800 cdn by the time i paid for customs. piping route was the same as your pan auto. functionally it was great, just the customs fees that screwed me over.
best was my ebay fmic setup that costed me under $200 shipped and has the shortest piping and took about 5 mins of cutting once I removed the rad. Clocking the turbo was required as well which was easy.
results from every setup was pretty much the exact same.
unless you are running hella boost it doesnt matter if you are running a perrin, a this or a that because pretty much ANY fmic can handle cooling whatever your mini-me T25 peeshooter turbo can throw at it all day so IMO it doesnt matter what setup you do on a stock motor, as stock motors are so weak you will never max out a fmic unless the core really is a tiny POS. I think the only fmic not worth installing would be those really old high boost fmics, if i come across a pic one day ill post it up.
the only thing that "sucks" about a fmic setup would be if your kit required you to remove crash bar IMO.
as far as piping goes, my current setup has shorter piping route than a stock SMIC. not really much of a "lag" difference. at least not in the real world, however I am happy I no longer have a "76 foot intake pipe" as brian put it as its ugly and eventually one day your coupling behind the bumper will pop or tear and then its a pain to get to it.
either way at least your SMIC junk is gone and you dont have to worry about intake temps/heat soak anytime soon. you did install an upgraded IC in the proper location which will give you obvious benefits regardless of having a longer piping route.
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