Opinion on "Turboing" an Auto (non-sport)

I just asked for some of my student loan in cash to do the turbo or supercharger, havent decided yet, but somrthing will be done.
I'll have to go talk to my friends at CFT to see what they say and if they can get me a good deal. If that doesnt work out I'll probably end up getting a turbo kit.
 
boosted, sport-shift auto here, for about year and a half (25k kms or so).

impressions, p5 is a diff car with the extra power. Would it be better if i could run 8-10 psi daily and not really worry about the tranny? YES. I run about 6.5 psi daily. I'm not hard on it, i usually don't end up hitting 6.5, but occasionally i do... and it's nice. I haven't put synthetic in yet. i have a trans-cooler sitting at home. (mind you i boosted when it was like 30K kms on it).

What has a year and a half of turbo done to the car? well, so far it's been good. it'll start to slip if it's more than 6.5 psi, and I let up off the gas between shifts - which IMO makes a big big diff in the longevity of the trans. I control the shift points and if there is boost being forced on it midshift. I think that's why it's been good so far. I've tried driving it in regular "D" position a couple times to see how the ecu liked it. The stock shift points suck, and unless you are flooring it, the trans will try to shift on you at inopportune times.

If you are going to upgrade your auto-trans, i am thinking that an upgraded torque convertor as well as upgraded valve-bodies are gonna be in order.

btw i'm running the hiboost kit with the haltech f10. (was deckedoutmp5's kit - probably one of the first kits on this site aside from pirana's)

worthwhile? for what i expect from it - yes. are there better cars with more power yadda yadda yadda.. of course. But for what i have right now, this is fine. Just know that it's stressing the factory parts into less life than they would ahve had and be prepared for little problems.

hope that helps.
 
^^werd the tranny deteriorate alot faster at 8psi and up i dunno about 7 or anything in between since i just ran 6.5psi and 8psi daily. I holds up better with the sport shift, if you get on the gas a lil too early in a shift sometimes it'll slip
 
I've been looking through the How-To section and the FI section looking for a list of the parts I need to start getting to turbo my auto P5, but I cant find anything that tells me what I need.
Here's what I can think of:
1. Turbo
2. Turbo headers
3. Intake
4. Downpipe
5. Oil lines (if it needs it)
6. Torque converter
7. EMS
8. Intercooler & Pipes

If anyone else can add to this, please do.
If anyone has a how-to on it, I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
2. Turbo Headers = Turbo Manifold

Some things to add

Boost Gauge
Wideband air/fuel ratio gauge (NOT narrowband)
Transmission cooler
Spare engine
Spare transmission
 
Lord_Zath said:
Spare engine
Spare transmission
Lol... I know, but after 3months of research I've come to the conclusion that as long as I'm careful, It'll be fine.
Only running 5-6psi and I dont race so...
(Cross my fingers) Everything will be ok!

1. Turbo
2. Turbo headers
3. Intake
4. Downpipe
5. Oil lines (if it needs it)
6. Torque converter
7. EMS
8. Intercooler & Pipes
9. Boost Gauge
10. Wideband air/fuel ratio gauge
11. Transmission cooler
 
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you also have to think about a Blow-off valve, a waste-gate (if the turbo isn't internally waste gated).

Also gonna have to think about if the parts themselves will match up to each other if you get them from different sources.. (if not. you might be in for a BIG headache).

Gonna want vacuum line, various fittings for that line. gonna want to run different spark plugs. misc electrical stuff for adding in your EMS. along with your intercooler pipes you'll need silicone connectors and hose clamps. (if you are running low boost you'll mostl likely be fine with the worm-drive kind)

good luck with your build.
 
1. Turbo
2. Turbo headers
3. Intake
4. Downpipe
5. Oil lines (if it needs it)
6. Torque converter
7. EMS
8. Intercooler & Pipes
9. Boost Gauge
10. Wideband air/fuel ratio gauge
11. Transmission cooler
12. BOV

Hv many questions!!!!!!
How much is this list going to cost approximately????
How much more power would u get if ur boosting at 5-6psi???
Which turbo is better for an Auto??? Is the MSP's turbo a good choice??
 
niv said:
boosted, sport-shift auto here, for about year and a half (25k kms or so).

impressions, p5 is a diff car with the extra power. Would it be better if i could run 8-10 psi daily and not really worry about the tranny? YES. I run about 6.5 psi daily. I'm not hard on it, i usually don't end up hitting 6.5, but occasionally i do... and it's nice. I haven't put synthetic in yet. i have a trans-cooler sitting at home. (mind you i boosted when it was like 30K kms on it).

What has a year and a half of turbo done to the car? well, so far it's been good. it'll start to slip if it's more than 6.5 psi, and I let up off the gas between shifts - which IMO makes a big big diff in the longevity of the trans. I control the shift points and if there is boost being forced on it midshift. I think that's why it's been good so far. I've tried driving it in regular "D" position a couple times to see how the ecu liked it. The stock shift points suck, and unless you are flooring it, the trans will try to shift on you at inopportune times.

If you are going to upgrade your auto-trans, i am thinking that an upgraded torque convertor as well as upgraded valve-bodies are gonna be in order.

btw i'm running the hiboost kit with the haltech f10. (was deckedoutmp5's kit - probably one of the first kits on this site aside from pirana's)

worthwhile? for what i expect from it - yes. are there better cars with more power yadda yadda yadda.. of course. But for what i have right now, this is fine. Just know that it's stressing the factory parts into less life than they would ahve had and be prepared for little problems.

hope that helps.


well, that answers my question, thanks!
 
What about one of these Voltage clamps I keep hearing about?
What exactly are they for?
 
6. Torque Coverter & Upgraded Valve Body
11. Transmissions cooler & Synthetic Fluids

It would probably be cheaper (not to mention saving all the headaches) in the long run to just buy a kit such as hiboost since it has everything included even EMS.
 
You are probalbly right about the kit being cheaper and easier, but I already bought some stuff and I cant afford it all at once so I'm getting a little at a time.
 
Hey GMalatrasi, I hate to thread jack, but this question is based on this subject. You have probably researched more than I have. When you have the turbo in and are running at the recommended psi, are you going to be able to, let's say, go to the strip and run it a few times? or is that too much for the tranny? or say you need to turn into traffic and need to gun it to get in there without having a wreck? Is that gonna hurt it? I have to gun it almost every day to get out of my subdivision. Thanks
 
bumpin_p5 said:
Hey GMalatrasi, I hate to thread jack, but this question is based on this subject. You have probably researched more than I have. When you have the turbo in and are running at the recommended psi, are you going to be able to, let's say, go to the strip and run it a few times? or is that too much for the tranny? or say you need to turn into traffic and need to gun it to get in there without having a wreck? Is that gonna hurt it? I have to gun it almost every day to get out of my subdivision. Thanks


Running at the track for a few hours might be too much, a few runs would be fine but doing it over and over again will definately kill it. same thing with traffic. If you wanna go fast you can but if you do alot or for a prolonged period of time the tranny will overheat and eventually fail
 
Yeah... gunning it, as you say, is bad... I plan on using it for passing ppl on the highway, maybe at an open track day at Sebring, and stuff like that; I'll have it for when I need it. You cant forget that it will save a lil gas too.
 
GMalatrasi said:
Hey! A man can hope... Yeah who am I kidding?
when i put in my hiboost kit i effectively reduced my gas mileage by ~50%.

The basemap that comes with it is extremely rich. With better tuning and perhaps closed loop with my wideband 02 the mileage will get better.
 
gimpo2 said:
when i put in my hiboost kit i effectively reduced my gas mileage by ~50%.

The basemap that comes with it is extremely rich. With better tuning and perhaps closed loop with my wideband 02 the mileage will get better.

Did you install bigger injectors?
 
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