New intake manifold

A few things here.

please don't make the runners shorter then 4 inch,it would be a waste of low end,and since our factory is very efficiant the only people that would have any use for this is above,say,14psi.so since your going that much you should be designing it in a surge tank fashion.
and I'm asuming your making it a fabricated alluminum IM since your making the flange now.you should make the runners in a velocity stack style were they meet the tank.
aswell make the runners dia about the the same size as a mild port head,but making it extra thick for future porting,so everyone can use it.
oh,how about some nitrous boses for the people who use it.

just my 2 cents.cause if your going to do it you might aswell so it can incorperate everyones needs,and then some.=)
 
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wicked said:
A few things here.

please don't make the runners shorter then 4 inch,it would be a waste of low end,and since our factory is very efficiant the only people that would have any use for this is above,say,14psi.so since your going that much you should be designing it in a surge tank fashion.
and I'm asuming your making it a fabricated alluminum IM since your making the flange now.you should make the runners in a velocity stack style were they meet the tank.
aswell make the runners dia about the the same size as a mild port head,but making it extra thick for future porting,so everyone can use it.


just my 2 cents.cause if your going to do it you might aswell so it can incorperate everyones needs,and then some.=)

Thats about what I think their plan is. Mine at least was gonna be like that for sure.
 
trbomp5 said:
Thats about what I think their plan is. Mine at least was gonna be like that for sure.
I hope they tune it instead of just assuming runner lenghs,and not on a just on a stock car.
 
well all they have to do is say start with a 6" length, do a dyno, cut off .5" do a dyno, cut off .5", do a dyno etc. to figure out what is best so i would think it wouldnt be to bad for them to do.
 
but what will you do to manage the coldstart since the tumblers are gone?
 
jeffmsp said:
but what will you do to manage the coldstart since the tumblers are gone?

Probably no different than FlatBlacks "How To" on removing them from the stock intake mani
 
watching this one ...hopefully something will come from it.
 
trbomp5 said:
have you ever seen that SCCA blue mazda protege that they run in those races against bmw's and what not? Ive seen shows where they open the hood on it, and it has this IM that looks like about a 5" or so SS tube with the runners about 4 inches long straight into the head. Had the injectors in the same place, angled into the runners, towards the head.
Thats what I'm going for.

u mean this one?

TriPoint%20Protege%20Motor.jpg


this is Tri-Point Engeneering protege.
260whp N/A
no internals done
engine has 30-hour life
they've beaten beemers with this motor.
 
actually the beemers tri-point races against have lifespan in low 20's.
 
Dr.Sound said:
u mean this one?

this is Tri-Point Engeneering protege.
260whp N/A
no internals done
engine has 30-hour life
they've beaten beemers with this motor.

YES! know any more info on that IM?

And how in the hell are they making 260 whp N/A with no internals?
What did they do to get there? Most turbo's, including mine, dont do that!

I'm jealous.
 
race gas, cams and engine management maybe? if its only gonna last 30 hours im sure you could get it going pretty good. Still dont understand how they are making 260whp on the stock rods though....
 
They have intenral work.... They have like 13:1 compression ratio.

I think that TriPoint car is for sale. They had one Protege for sale over the summer if I recall correctly.

Here's a recent thread about Speed Challenge Proteges (with a link to SCCA specs):
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94670
 
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