Nearest Mazda Dealer is 2 hours Away...How Big a Disadvantage?

[7eregrine]

Don't forget it needs a red Honda logo like the Type R has

I'm not going down this road again, but let's face facts: the CR-V and the CX-5 across the board in nearly every review are rated the 2 best rising above the rest of the pack. As much as I don't like the CR-V I'll take it as an equal.
This review sums it up well:
So there you have it: two crossover SUVs, both class leaders, but in completely different ways. Which is better? That really depends on you. But it doesn't seem like a stretch to claim that together they sit above the cardboard heap. For Joe P. Everyman, start your search with these two.


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[OldGinger]

As the original poster of this thread, I'd like to thank all of you who have offered advice and encouragement. I've read and thought about each reply.

Having just recently joined this forum, I'm struck that my innocent query evoked 162 replies, as of this moment. I'm also struck by the thinly veiled hostility, not directed at me personally, but in many of the replies. Hostility and intolerance, actually. I don't want to mention names, but some writers seem to assume that there can be only one "correct" way of thinking about the matters under discussion. In fact most of the arguments concern matters of taste, not matters of fact. Might as well argue about which flavor ice cream is best!

I'm an old man. Live and let live! There's quite enough to fight about! Let's save our pugilistic energy for things like the Senate health care bill.

 

[Monterra]

Skipping Cleveland this year. ��
Thinking about driving to Columbus to see them. My favorite band. Buddy turned me onto them about a year ago.

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Not as crazy about their new one (little sing songy)but cool thing about them is they won't play most of the new album and sprinkle a few old ones in if you look on setlist its pretty much the opposite. Nothing More (amazing btw), them and ffdp in Albany was definitely in the top few shows I've seen ever...not sure how far you are away but if they're your favorite don't miss em! Above heaven for me is their best cover to cover just a great album..still counting good theme song for some of these threads..no?

 

[Unobtanium]

I love seeing the tailgaters fade away in the mirrors around the corners...
(drive2)


I drive 2.5 hrs away, twice a year to my dealer... Worth it for me.

I have literally only encountered 2 or 3 people willing to ACTUALLY give me a run through the corners. One was in a modded S2000, and the others are so far spaced apart, I cannot remember them. Just because someone brakes for corners without it being a corner entry tactic doesn't mean a darn thing about the vehicle. It has to do with the DRIVER.

 

[Unobtanium]

That CRV better be Hondata'd and have lots of stickers, lots and lots of stickers if it comes messin' wit me...

Absolute driver's race. If you've ever actually tracked a car against someone who is a far better or a far worse driver than you, you'll "get it". If not, you will keep drawing false conclusions "racing" people who aren't even "racing".

 

[Unobtanium]

Oh silly me. You're an expert! I didn't know. My friend has a sick ass $90,000 Porsche. I'm a Porsche expert, if you have any questions.



Yea, you "test drove" them. I believe you. Because you love CUV's so you wanted to get a feel for them, right? Totes believable.
Or did you just 'test drive' them from the back of the lot to the front? How long ago? 5 years at least, amirite? Probably more. Bah... what could change in 5 years? #Expert #alwaysRight

Long time ago, and you are 100% right on your conclusions. I drove them around, took people on test drives/rides, etc. and payed zero attention because none of them interested me. The Mustang Gt at the time didn't even interest me except that I noted the convertible 2005's felt WAY MORE rigid and better built than the 'vert '04's. It was still a slow, sorry POS compared to its contemporaries.

It's a CUV man. CR and JD Power mean more to me than "steering feed-back and rebound control" and the like. If I could have found a RAV4 on the lot for the same price as the CX5, I'd have done that. It really isn't about loyalty or bashing here, it's about common sense. You don't buy a CUV to "do those things". You buy it because it meets needs, and it's cheap, and it's reliable (see: cheap).

This is like all the people on the Corvette forums trying to hypermile their Corvettes because they get 30+mpg on the freeway when you do. Well and good, but it's outside the scope of the car, somewhat (I say somewhat, because cross-country cruises are a "thing" in the 'vette world).

 

[Unobtanium]

I'm sure it was the SRT because any other GC is maybe 1 second faster then a CX-5 to 60.

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Regular one with the HEMI. 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds, and it never stopped pulling. Here is a comparison for you (My Jeep, my CX5), and you can tell me...

My Jeep absolutely DOMINATED a CX5 in acceleration. I mean, dude....5 second disparity to 80? ROFL! That's like...American History X prison shower level domination.

 

[Unobtanium]

Uno, and a certain tropical fruit chile guy...

I just don't get it. Some things are not mutually exclusive.

To the fruit man's point, sure a Macan or SQ5 might handle corners well (I actually don't know, I am taking your word for it). So does a CX-5. Is your point that you have to spend the most amount of money? Silly argument, but anything to downplay a CX-5 am I right Mango? (hand)

And to Uno, seriously, go test drive some of the other CUV's out there right now and tell me they are all the same. Of course a CX-5 is useful and works well. It's also (gasp) dare I say it....fun. Will it be my ultimate "fun" car or dream car? No. But that doesn't mean I need to settle for a boring car like a RAV4 or something. CX-5 is both fun and looks sexy. A RAV4 is neither. A Rogue is neither. Other CUV's are neither. I don't see why you have to constantly argue this. You see it as an appliance only and the fruit man agree with you (hmm...probably why he has the car he has...), many of us don't. That's just like...your opinion man. And to be honest, to the people who happen to not agree with the "appliance only" view, you're coming off as a real ass in some of your responses.

As for me, I can appreciate your point of view from the perspective of some of the other cars you have driven/had before the CX-5 (maybe still have? Don't remember), which compared to a CX-5 are yeah...fun cars. I don't see how that negates others who maybe like me are a one car house at the moment, and in my opinion, I am getting both fun and useful. I don't buy a car if it isn't fun to drive, period. That's every level of fun. Should I be relegated to only considering fun cars super expensive cars, or jackass need for speed wannabe cars? No. My old Jeep was fun even if it was a piece of crap. But it was fun for completely different reasons than my CX-5 is. Handling sucked ass on it, but hey, the top went down and it could go on some pretty cool trails in the mountains. My CX-5 on the other hand...also fun, but in a different way. Handling is great, it just begs you to zoom zoom, and seriously it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. My future "fun" car will probably be a convertible of some sort. They interest me far more than those street-racer cars (you know which ones I mean). Hell in the future I'll probably have my CX-5, a convertible, and maybe some type of vehicle I can take off road again. And in all 3 I'll be able to say they are all fun cars in their respective manners.

I'm curious though, Uno. Do you also consider that new rig you built that you want to get the 1080Ti for a toaster?

From bottom to top...

Yes, my computer is a toaster. I don't care two bits about a PC until it's time to build a new one, and then I learn as much as I can and make informed decisions. Why? It doesn't matter to me. Does it play the games? Does it surf the net? Does it do so WELL? Okay then, good 'nuff!
Yes, the CX'5 has better steering feed-back than some CUV's I am sure, but the comparative handling isn't much different. They all do very similar on paper. The only real difference is "feel", and I didn't buy a CUV "for feel". Now, if forced into a CUV, I get how you might want to retain as much as you can of a fun vehicle, but I have always been an "all or nothing" person about my passions. To quite the Mercedes commercial I hear on the daily: "The best...or nothing." This is the approach I take with my firearm collection, but I don't have a gussied up DPMS that I pretend is just as good as an SR25. No. I went and bought an SR25. I see a lot of people pretending their DPMS is an SR25 on here, and that's what I'm shaking my head at. Not the one's who are in touch with reality and simply say "Yeah, it sucks, but it's the least suck possible and it meets needs and cost the same, so why not?" Because let's face it, a mid 80's IROC Z for $2500 would tear a CX5 up in anything but a braking contest.

 

[ColoradoDriver]

Well. I can appreciate that that is your perspective on things then Uno.

I'll agree to disagree as neither my PC or my CX-5 is a toaster to me, and I certainly wasn't forced into a CX-5. I totally found it by accident and immediately loved it when I test drove it versus the abysmal offerings from everyone else. You mention CUVs being similar on paper, but the actual feel...it was different by...a lot. Nothing else I test drove came anywhere close.

I could have bought a car instead, but I got into the CUV segment for one reason mainly (which, yes splinters into other reasons)...I like to be higher off the ground. That's it.

Which I guess makes it silly that I want a convertible in the future, bit the CX-5 would remain the daily driver

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[Unobtanium]

Well. I can appreciate that that is your perspective on things then Uno.

I'll agree to disagree as neither my PC or my CX-5 is a toaster to me, and I certainly wasn't forced into a CX-5. I totally found it by accident and immediately loved it when I test drove it versus the abysmal offerings from everyone else. You mention CUVs being similar on paper, but the actual feel...it was different by...a lot. Nothing else I test drove came anywhere close.

I could have bought a car instead, but I got into the CUV segment for one reason mainly (which, yes splinters into other reasons)...I like to be higher off the ground. That's it.

Which I guess makes it silly that I want a convertible in the future, bit the CX-5 would remain the daily driver

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Makes sense. One word of caution with a 'vert though. They aren't safe, IMO. When I was even younger and dumber than I am now, I drove a Trans Am through a barb-wire fence (road was misted on/wet, transmission downshifted as I applied throttle in the corner, I over-corrected and spun it.) One strand went under the car. The top two strands sliced the car from the emblem to the tip of the spoiler. Had it been a 'vert, decapitation is a likely outcome. Ever since that night, I have been very 'vert averse.

 

[ColoradoDriver]

Wow, that sounds pretty scary. Glad you came out of that alright!

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[fdew]

Let me put this another way. As a guy who bought my first good handling car in 1969 (A 1968 BMW 1600) and have chosen cars based on fun to drive ever since I like my CX-5 a lot. I enjoy driving it. I'm am glad I bought it.

In 1969 there were many who couldn't understand why anyone would buy such a car when clearly a Chrysler must be more fun because it would accelerate faster. Nothing has changed.

 

[Unobtanium]

Wow, that sounds pretty scary. Glad you came out of that alright!

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It was a life lesson. I got very lucky.

 

[Unobtanium]

Let me put this another way. As a guy who bought my first good handling car in 1969 (A 1968 BMW 1600) and have chosen cars based on fun to drive ever since I like my CX-5 a lot. I enjoy driving it. I'm am glad I bought it.

In 1969 there were many who couldn't understand why anyone would buy such a car when clearly a Chrysler must be more fun because it would accelerate faster. Nothing has changed.

Technical cars are always fun. Some people just don't get it. That said, that ranks on the bottom of CUV criteria FOR MOST.

 

[7eregrine]

Regular one with the HEMI. 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds, and it never stopped pulling. Here is a comparison for you (My Jeep, my CX5), and you can tell me...

Didn't know Jeep had a Hemi.

You suck! Took you just over 9 seconds to get to 60? That's a ROFL. I can do better then that.

My Jeep absolutely DOMINATED a CX5 in acceleration. I mean, dude....5 second disparity to 80? ROFL! That's like...American History X prison shower level domination.

Really?? Were you really ROFL? Come on man. hehehe
Dude, no one said it's the quickest. And you aren't the only one that's owned fast cars or knows anything abut them.

No one is going to fault your opinion. The only issue that I have with you (and some other folks seem to have with you) is how opinionated you are. I've called you out about it before. You're just like "Yea, I am opinionated. Deal with it". Sorry, man, but... being OPINIONATED isn't a good thing. You come across as a dick... (I know I know... deal with it, right? LOL), if I can be totally honest. Recognize: you aren't always right, you don't know everything and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
It's pretty much exactly why so many people think Mango is a prick. It's not because he likes his CRV so much...

I am all for debate and STRONG opinions and I am not afraid to defend mine, obvs. But I listen to others don't tell them they are wrong for feeling a certain way.

There's a pretty thick line between having an opinion...and being opinionated. Love ya' man... but tone it down, jesus.

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conceitedly assertive and dogmatic in one's opinions.
"an arrogant and opinionated man"
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[fdew]

Technical cars are always fun. Some people just don't get it. That said, that ranks on the bottom of CUV criteria FOR MOST.

Now you have nailed it. Most doesn't mater when I buy a car. I buy what I individually value. It does effect what is available, but not what I buy. BTW as a guy who has owned 4 Peugeots I can say that with confidence.

 

[ColoradoDriver]

Now you have nailed it. Most doesn't mater when I buy a car. I buy what I individually value. It does effect what is available, but not what I buy. BTW as a guy who has owned 4 Peugeots I can say that with confidence.

And this is what makes me happy that a CX-5 exists in a sea of boring CUVs.

It doesn't all have to be cookie cutter boring soccer mom vehicles.

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[mangoconchile]

You don't buy a CUV to "do those things". You buy it because it meets needs, and it's cheap, and it's reliable (see: cheap).

No kidding. I bought my CRV because it drives well, good on gas, good reliability, good residual value, decent styling, CarPlay, turbo engine and a few other things. But most importantly I bought it because I needed the extra space an SUV provides, and because it was within my budget. Some of the things people say around here are pretty ridiculous IMO. You'd think these people are driving around McLaren's by the way they drive these underpowered SUVs.

 

[ColoradoDriver]

No kidding. I bought my CRV because it drives well, good on gas, good reliability, good residual value, decent styling, CarPlay, turbo engine and a few other things. But most importantly I bought it because I needed the extra space an SUV provides, and because it was within my budget. Some of the things people say around here are pretty ridiculous IMO. You'd think these people are driving around McLaren's by the way they drive these underpowered SUVs.

Oh good lord. Right, because we don't fit your mold of a soccer mom or something? Your definition seems to be that we can only have fun in fast and expensive cars. Far be it for any of us to have fun in our CX-5's! You heard it here folks, the all powerful, all knowing god Mango has decreed we can never have fun with our CX-5's! Case closed!

I bought my CX-5 because it was fun to drive and I wanted higher off the ground than a car. The extra cargo space came in handy, but that was maybe twice in 4 years I've actually made full use of the cargo space. I didn't even give a thought about MPG when I bought it.

You know...7 is right to an extent. Being opinionated is ok, but when you're a prick about it and can't see that people have different opinions then you, then you are just a trolling asshole.

No one is calling their CX-5 a McLaren, but you just take it to the extreme since you can't get it through your thick skull that we can actually have different reasons for owning a CX-5 then a soccer mom and dare I say it again...have fun with it.

 

[mangoconchile]

Oh good lord. Right, because we don't fit your mold of a soccer mom or something? Your definition seems to be that we can only have fun in fast and expensive cars. Far be it for any of us to have fun in our CX-5's! You heard it here folks, the all powerful, all knowing god Mango has decreed we can never have fun with our CX-5's! Case closed!

I bought my CX-5 because it was fun to drive and I wanted higher off the ground than a car. The extra cargo space came in handy, but that was maybe twice in 4 years I've actually made full use of the cargo space. I didn't even give a thought about MPG when I bought it.

You know...7 is right to an extent. Being opinionated is ok, but when you're a prick about it and can't see that people have different opinions then you, then you are just a trolling asshole.

No one is calling their CX-5 a McLaren, but you just take it to the extreme since you can't get it through your thick skull that we can actually have different reasons for owning a CX-5 then a soccer mom and dare I say it again...have fun with it.

Relax bro, no one is telling you how to drive your car. All I said was driving around these SUVs in that manner is stupid and pointless that's all. It's called an opinion. If you want to 'zoom zoom' around town in your CX-5 as you say, cool that's great. It's your car and you can do what you want with it. I personally don't get any kind of satisfaction driving like that in the same way I do lets say a Porsche but that's just me. I just think it's funny to hear people drive these type of cars in that manner that's all. Don't get all offended over it.

Have a great 4th of July!