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I'll believe the increased modding when I see it. Either way I hope it doesn't turn out like PKay mentioned - where the "unpopular" opinion gets deleted while the popular posts stay. Every post he made in the JoeP thread was justifiable.
 
BinaryRotary said:
I think maybe the MSP customers are the only ones that get pissed when an item doesnt arrive when it was said it was going to.

I'd be pissed too. Also, it's aliiiiiiiiiiiiittle hard to believe that MSP owners are the only ones that have ever had something go wrong. Thats a little too biased of an answer for me. I just think someone is trying to cover their ass by coming on and posting that thread (drama queen).
Since I like hearing my own voice, I have this to say- then why is it only the
MSP items I dropped if all my customers are just as pissed at me or break my balls just as bad? Is common sense even in your damn vocabulary?

You two can twist it however you want to- I have said numerous times that it is not all MSP owners, only a few- but it is ONLY MSP owners that give me problems. That is not stereotyping the WHOLE GROUP, just stating that out of all my 3500+ customers, the few that give me problems are ONLY A FEW of the MSP people. I don't need this, so I am ending it. Problem solved. I am not a big "ass-kissing to make a sale to anyone and not care who my client base is as long as they spend money" company. I am someone doing this on the side that does not need the aggrivation. What is so hard to comprehend about that?

I will continue to help those of you who need it, the other few can lick my balls for all I care, I don't need their BS.. The rest of you know you can contact me any time. I am through- I strongly urge you to drop it too..
Joe
 
kwiktsi said:
Since I like hearing my own voice, I have this to say- then why is it only the
MSP items I dropped if all my customers are just as pissed at me or break my balls just as bad? Is common sense even in your damn vocabulary?

You two can twist it however you want to- I have said numerous times that it is not all MSP owners, only a few- but it is ONLY MSP owners that give me problems. That is not stereotyping the WHOLE GROUP, just stating that out of all my 3500+ customers, the few that give me problems are ONLY A FEW of the MSP people. I don't need this, so I am ending it. Problem solved. I am not a big "ass-kissing to make a sale to anyone and not care who my client base is as long as they spend money" company. I am someone doing this on the side that does not need the aggrivation. What is so hard to comprehend about that?

I will continue to help those of you who need it, the other few can lick my balls for all I care, I don't need their BS.. The rest of you know you can contact me any time. I am through- I strongly urge you to drop it too..
Joe
Well since there are a little over 4000 MSP's in the world, maybe 1500 of them converge here. Maybe 1/4 of those people have JoeP products on their cars, thats a little over 250 people. Now if only a FEW of them complained, 15-20 of them, that sounds like a sorry excuse to cause so much drama.
 
girth said:
I'll believe the increased modding when I see it. Either way I hope it doesn't turn out like PKay mentioned - where the "unpopular" opinion gets deleted while the popular posts stay. Every post he made in the JoeP thread was justifiable.
Werd.
 
Tease-I think your doing a good job as our mod.we have needed someone to put-foot-to-ass in this section for a while and, i think your doing it in a good way not,like how "razor"aka.matt did it to make alot of people hate him. keep up the good work.
 
mspeed#267 said:
Tease-I think your doing a good job as our mod.we have needed someone to put-foot-to-ass in this section for a while and, i think your doing it in a good way not,like how "razor"aka.matt did it to make alot of people hate him. keep up the good work.

/\ /\ I agree.
 
girth said:
I'll believe the increased modding when I see it. Either way I hope it doesn't turn out like PKay mentioned - where the "unpopular" opinion gets deleted while the popular posts stay. Every post he made in the JoeP thread was justifiable.
(strike) (thumb) I agree
 
BinaryRotary said:
Well since there are a little over 4000 MSP's in the world, maybe 1500 of them converge here. Maybe 1/4 of those people have JoeP products on their cars, thats a little over 250 people. Now if only a FEW of them complained, 15-20 of them, that sounds like a sorry excuse to cause so much drama.
Look, trying to prove your point by making up #s isn't going to do anything. You don't understand what he went through, so don't try to make it sound like it was all his fault.

The reason why Joe only gets problems from MSP owners is because most other people who own turbo cars are older & more mature. For a lot of guys on here, the MSP is there 1st turbo car or their 1st venture into the modding world & when dealing with vendors, a few of them are immature & inconsiderate.
 
Black Majik MSP said:
Look, trying to prove your point by making up #s isn't going to do anything. You don't understand what he went through, so don't try to make it sound like it was all his fault.

The reason why Joe only gets problems from MSP owners is because most other people who own turbo cars are older & more mature. For a lot of guys on here, the MSP is there 1st turbo car or their 1st venture into the modding world & when dealing with vendors, a few of them are immature & inconsiderate.
:confused: I think #'s do a lot since in his statement it does make sense
 
VA PROTEGE said:
:confused: I think #'s do a lot since in his statement it does make sense
Joe said he gets 100 emails a day. BinaryRotary has no idea how many complaints Joe gets, so he can't justify calling Joe a drama queen when he has no idea what Joe is dealing with.

I can also guarantee that a lot more than 250 people have JoeP products on this site.
 
Listen guys, I don't have any kind of personal issue with either Joe P. or T3ease. Infact, I plan on picking up a Joe P. FCD.. I also think that T3ase is a good mod, the best this section has had.

But, I don't agree with the bitching. Yes its sad that people complain, but some of them have legitimate issues. Also, running a business for home while holding a full time job that pays the bills can be daunting.

It just wasnt needed to come on to the board and post about the problems. This community is VERY touchy about vendor issues and anyone that has been here for a length of time realizes that.

Posting on your business site is enough information. There was really no reason for coming on to the board and pointing fingers. Like I've been saying the whole time, its just too much drama.
 
BinaryRotary said:
Listen guys, I don't have any kind of personal issue with either Joe P. or T3ease. Infact, I plan on picking up a Joe P. FCD.. I also think that T3ase is a good mod, the best this section has had.


But, I don't agree with the bitching. Yes its sad that people complain, but some of them have legitimate issues. Also, running a business for home while holding a full time job that pays the bills can be daunting.

It just wasnt needed to come on to the board and post about the problems. This community is VERY touchy about vendor issues and anyone that has been here for a length of time realizes that.

Posting on your business site is enough information. There was really no reason for coming on to the board and pointing fingers. Like I've been saying the whole time, its just too much drama.
This is the first post from you about me that I actually can understand and agree with :). Maybe it was mis-understood. The point of my original post was not to b****- if it was, it would have been written much differently and ended with "**** you all" :). It was a post apologizing for pulling the parts, but explaining why at the same time to those who care and would be affected most by it- and letting them know I will still work with them if need anything. Some of the replies were unecessary and only provoked things to get worse than they were.

If people think it was bitching and it bothers them that much, sorry- just ignore it :). The ones who it was directed to understood and that is what matters. Thank you for the above reply, it shows you are not as bad as I thought (2thumbs) .
Joe
 
t3ase said:
Actually, he specificially said multiple times that it was not *every* MSP owner, just a select few. You then turned that in to "every MSP owner" for your own good.

Sorry to say it but you *do* have a record of walking over your own toes at times. Maybe you should take your own advice.

Regardless, in the future, any posts will be deleted once I get around.
please find one place where I mentioned every MSP
 
BinaryRotary said:
Listen guys, I don't have any kind of personal issue with either Joe P. or T3ease. Infact, I plan on picking up a Joe P. FCD.. I also think that T3ase is a good mod, the best this section has had.

But, I don't agree with the bitching. Yes its sad that people complain, but some of them have legitimate issues. Also, running a business for home while holding a full time job that pays the bills can be daunting.

It just wasnt needed to come on to the board and post about the problems. This community is VERY touchy about vendor issues and anyone that has been here for a length of time realizes that.

Posting on your business site is enough information. There was really no reason for coming on to the board and pointing fingers. Like I've been saying the whole time, its just too much drama.
I used to sell alot of items on eBay and more or less picked up 100 - 150 emails a day. Most of the time it would be the same old question "How much does shipping cost to this place n this address" If you can't handle it then your pretty much a drama queen. There are people in the world who work 10 - 16 hour days and don't complain.

Well said Binary Rotaty, Well Said.
 
Black Majik MSP said:
I think it would have been best if the original thread was locked after Joe's 1st post.
Something along the lines of

"I will no longer be selling MSP specific parts. If you truely want a part or want more details on why I am no longer selling them please visit the website or email me"


thus preventing the pitty party/bash msp'ers feel of things.

If we go on an SRT forum and say "srters are immature" it's silly to not expect a retort
 
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