MSP Falling off?

[69RMSP]

I doubt Mazda was going to open up the bottom end to toss in stronger rods for each protg.

The car wasnt tuned for straight line speed and big horsepower numbers. It wasnt made to be launched at the QM strip. The car is fast on the track and thats what it was made for.

I guess this is were we differ because you would want to have a fast car straight line and I want to have a fast car on the track. To me 400-500 hp in fwd car isnt practical.

500 in on a drag mustang would be alright thou.

well we can cross of the soccer moms and the business men. we can cross off the people looking for just good gas mileage. we can cross off the people looking for a full out sports car. The car is targeted at the tuner market. how do you not see that? what market do you think the srt-4 was targeted at? it is the same market. fwd, good power, good handling, cheap. At least that's the way i see it. that is the majority of the people that bought it anyway. That's why it wasn't advertised. Most tuner market based cars arent advertised on tv and such because the people that are going to buy them already know about them. The reason the srt-4 did so well is because it responds extremely well to mods and that is what the majority of the people that bought it were looking for. I am not trying to bash the msp, but i didn't buy it because i would hate being afraid everytime i mashed the pedal with some mods. If i wanted to have to deal with internals and such to make the power i want, i would have bought the msp no doubt, but handling isn't that important to me and that is where the msp shines. I just don't like having to drop 1k into a car to take away the little fear in the back of my head that a piston is gonna fly thru my hood if i step on it. obviously it is great for alot of people and i am glad it did pretty well, but i and alot of the tuner market want to start with a motor that can handle alot more power, and that just isn't an option with the msp. i just want straight line performance and decent handling, which is why i bought my car. Hell if i drop 1k into my internals (forged pistons, already have forged rods) i could make 300whp all motor and handle well over 550hp. again, i like the msp, and i was very close to buying one. I just think that the rods were the big mistake on it which is a large part of the equation in buying a car with hardcore enthusiasts of straight line performance.

 

[69RMSP]

You posted what you had to say.. I can read 1-2 of your posts and understand what you think about the car. You repeat your self so many times, its annoying .

free speach is fine but your annoying

did i forget to say your annoying? because you are.

Get my drift?

I guess when communists like yourself take away free speech rights and come to my house and unplug my computer. I'm sorry, I didn't get the memo that I was only allowed to post as many times as you will let me. Whats your problem man. Back off! If you don't like my posts, don't read them. We're all just commenting on a message board. Did I insult you or something?

 

[Rush]

ANYWAY.

I have a distinct love/hate relationship with mine.

Is my MSP prone to problems? .. Not those that I didn't create the potential for myself. Perfect example happened a few weeks ago. My radiator was punctured, and I had to shell out a few hundred dollars for a new one. Why did it puncture? Because the brackets that mounted my slim fans (which came with my FMIC kit) changed shape over time, and stabbed into my radiator. And whose fault was that? Totally mine. I'm the one that changed the stock setup.

I think people (as always) expect too much out of this car stock.

And for the most part, the people that I see that have joined the 'Zoom Zoom Boom' club have raised their boost without the proper supporting mods. It's their own fault that their MSPs killed themselves -- just like it was my own fault my radiator was punctured. It's not the MSP's fault, and too many people say the car's a piece of s*** .. when in reality, quite often it's the modder that was unwise and did something inappropriate.

So really, for what the MSP was made to be -- I think it's great. As far as people being unrealistic and expecting 300hp out of it .. C'mon. What the hell did you buy a MSP for if you wanted THAT kind of power? Especially if you aren't willing to invest the serious money it takes to do it 'safely'?

 

[Donas64]

You posted what you had to say.. I can read 1-2 of your posts and understand what you think about the car. You repeat your self so many times, its annoying .

free speach is fine but your annoying

did i forget to say your annoying? because you are.

Get my drift?

Yeah I get your drift. Now ask me if I give a darn. Actually don't bother asking me because frankly I could care less what you think of me. This is an internet message forum. There's probably a hand dandy ignore feature on here. Just block my posts. That should end your little hissy fit. Besides you're the only one I see complaining. Don't you have anything better to do?

 

[kamon8404]

Wow, someone that finally admits to user caused error! I don't believe me eyes. Nice post rush.

ANYWAY.

I have a distinct love/hate relationship with mine.

Is my MSP prone to problems? .. Not those that I didn't create the potential for myself. Perfect example happened a few weeks ago. My radiator was punctured, and I had to shell out a few hundred dollars for a new one. Why did it puncture? Because the brackets that mounted my slim fans (which came with my FMIC kit) changed shape over time, and stabbed into my radiator. And whose fault was that? Totally mine. I'm the one that changed the stock setup.

I think people (as always) expect too much out of this car stock.

And for the most part, the people that I see that have joined the 'Zoom Zoom Boom' club have raised their boost without the proper supporting mods. It's their own fault that their MSPs killed themselves -- just like it was my own fault my radiator was punctured. It's not the MSP's fault, and too many people say the car's a piece of s*** .. when in reality, quite often it's the modder that was unwise and did something inappropriate.

So really, for what the MSP was made to be -- I think it's great. As far as people being unrealistic and expecting 300hp out of it .. C'mon. What the hell did you buy a MSP for if you wanted THAT kind of power? Especially if you aren't willing to invest the serious money it takes to do it 'safely'?

 

[Donas64]

Wow, someone that finally admits to user caused error! I don't believe me eyes. Nice post rush.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Not blaming the car but admitting that they tinkered with the stock settings and thats what caused the problem. That was an excellent post.

 

[smo0f]

yea let's all kiss ass to the girl when the same points have been already been stressed. losers. grow some juevos

 

[Velocifero]

yea let's all kiss ass to the girl when the same points have been already been stressed. losers. grow some juevos

thats what I am screaming son, but I bet she looks better than me anyways.

 

[Donas64]

yea let's all kiss ass to the girl when the same points have been already been stressed. losers. grow some juevos

Umm,

I'm kissing no ones behind. I'm happlily married(first)

Tensions have been running a little high on these forums lately! Whats with all the venom people?

 

[smo0f]

thats what I am screaming son, but I bet she looks better than me anyways.

whatever man. i look cute in any sort of stretchy pants

 

[sanblaster]

Whats with all the venom people?

People are eating snakes for breakfast and they have to release the venom because our digestive system doesn't digest it very well. Hence venom release towards you Donas.

 

[Donas64]

whatever man. i look cute in any sort of stretchy pants

(ughdance) *shudders*

 

[kamon8404]

yea let's all kiss ass to the girl when the same points have been already been stressed. losers. grow some juevos

I wasn't kissing anyone ass. I was just saying nice post, you don't see that everyday when people admit they caused something.

 

[Donas64]

People are eating snakes for breakfast and they have to release the venom because our digestive system doesn't digest it very well. Hence venom release towards you Donas.

Man. I guess I need to be chowing on some snakes then.

 

[sanblaster]

Man. I guess I need to be chowing on some snakes then.

Try Boa. Actually Atkins friendly..

 

[Donas64]

I wasn't kissing anyone ass. I was just saying nice post, you don't see that everyday when people admit they caused something.

Didn't you know man, it's a sign of weakness and being a wuss to complement fellow male or female forum members on these manly Mazda Forums.

Seriously just ignore the haters.

 

[Donas64]

Try Boa. Actually Atkins friendly..

I prefer garden snakes with a light vinigarette myself. I'm not down with the whole atkins thing.

 

[smo0f]

lol @ 'ignore the haters'. apparently that's the new coined term around here, 'hater'. anyone who points out a weakness or a fault of yours, is automatically a 'hater'. you guys are just idiots and fail to realize it, that's all. you take things way too personally. you're gonna end up one of those people sitting in a wheel chair in a corner facing the wall knitting sweaters when you're 80 (that's in 5 years for you donas isn't it?). lighten up folks

 

[Donas64]

lol @ 'ignore the haters'. apparently that's the new coined term around here, 'hater'. anyone who points out a weakness or a fault of yours, is automatically a 'hater'. you guys are just idiots and fail to realize it, that's all. you take things way too personally. you're gonna end up one of those people sitting in a wheel chair in a corner facing the wall knitting sweaters when you're 80 (that's in 5 years for you donas isn't it?). lighten up folks

A hater is someone who's all caught up in themselves and thinks that they are Gods gift to internet car forums and feels the need to prop themselves up by putting others who they don't deem to be as cool as them down. They also feel the need to call other people idiots and act shocked when people take it personally. Draw from that what you will my friend.

Hopefully when I'm 80 I will still be married to my wonderful wife, we'll have many kids and grand kids, I won't much have time to post on mazda forums anymore as I'll be kicking back and enjoying the golden years with a family that loves me and that I love. Thats my plan for when I become an old fart.

The egos of some of the people on this forum just crack me up. I don't really care if you agree or disagree with me on a given topic. All I ask is that you show me the same respect I show you and if you don't care for what I have to say, ignore me.

As for me. I'm only 23 so I got a whole lot of living to do. Now if you'll excuse me my wife and I are gunna go visit some friends and watch the Pats game. Have a great night folks.

 

[smo0f]

jeez.. stay away from razor blades. and i am no where near God's gift to the internet, but I guess I do feel a bit flattered that you view me that way.