MP3, MSP, P5 chips/tuners

[PR5Matt]

http://www.fordchip.com</a></b>Ford Chip

He says he can do both for us. I have used his stuff before and it is creat. Just go to his site, and e-mail him (talked to him today although his site needs updated). Don't automaticly say it can't happen. Check for yourself.

 

[Hughes412]

www.fordchip.com

He says he can do both for us. I have used his stuff before and it is creat. Just go to his site, and e-mail him (talked to him today although his site needs updated). Don't automaticly say it can't happen. Check for yourself.

Unless he done what no body ells could do I can't see it. I wished though.

 

[PR5Matt]

Have you contaced him? He says he can.

Let's not all be narrow minded (no offense). I will try it when I have the money, but like I said, He siad it was not problem. He said he even posted on some Mazda forums, but got 0 responses.

 

[Bigg Tim]

The place I dyno at does ford chips also. I've talked to him and he said that not ALL ford ECU's can be chipped. He does many EEC-V ECU's and just because ours is one, doesn't mean he can chip it. I was going to have him try it, but it wasn't worth it IMO, since I already have a piggyback.

Ours ECU's CAN BE modified. MPNick sent mine off a long time ago to see and the guy said it could be done. But it would have cost him some outrageous amount to get it going and Nick did not see the market going to want to spend the money to get the inital cost back. Also, he doesn't like flashes/chips so that aided to his decision. But the main thing is that IT CAN BE DONE. Whether or not this guy can, I don't know. Give it a shot and let us know how it works.(thumb)

 

[Hughes412]

I wasn't saying it couldn't be done, but more it would cost a lot to get it done. I'm always open to try, hell let him have yours and if it works I'll be inline as long as it's in the same 200-250 range.

 

[KzA]

I have an MP3 ecu that could be used for testing

 

[anarchistchiken]

MAtty is currently working with a Ford tuner in Alabama who thinks he can crack the code, but it was written by Japanese computer experts, so nobody hold your breath. It would be pretty sweet to have a chip or a plug in tuner though.

 

[PR5Matt]

^^^I have talked to Matty about this. I figure, what the hell, I'll have the guy try it if I have enough tax money.

 

[Reffoxel]

I've looked into this with a different but similar vendor in Houston (Tweecer). He too had a piggyback chip that used the service port. After cleaning off the varnish or whatever that stuff is, he hooked up his system to my service port to read it, it came up blank. Atleast on my P5, the service port had been disabled. He said he was going to get a pcm and see about figuring out how to reenable the service port but haven't heard back and that was before Katrina.

 

[PR5Matt]

You can get a hand-held tuner that will work through the OBD-II port. How the ECU will be read to find the code to program the tuner is anybody's guess.

 

[petec]

Moderators - just trying to be informative...not trying to sell.

SCT now has the Advantage software for 94-02 Mazdas and Probes. There are 4 products:

4 program "flip" chips for the older EECIV/EECV with a J-3 connector.
The XCal1 flasher can be flashed with 3 programs.
The XCal2 flasher can be flashed with 3 programs. The XCal2 also has a built in datalogger and scan tool.
The Racer package which includes software for your specific PCM and a flasher or chip for your car.

The flashers are very easy to use since they reflash through the diag port = no parts to remove. They are VIN locked to the specific vehicle but can be unlocked if the original vehicle is returned to the stock program.

To reflash with the XCal1 or XCal2 requires stopping the vehicle, hooking up the flasher and making the change.

The chip requires removing the EEC and cleaning the port, installing the chip.
The 4-position chip and switch can be changed anytime on the fly.

 

[TampaSport20]

I would prefer to see it done and working before spending money on a product.

 

[anarchistchiken]

There is one issue that no one has addressed yet; the fact that the programming in our ECU's is built to make it very hard for the tuning to be changed. It's possible, because Mazda has issued a reflash for the MSP, but it's not going to be as simple to change as a standard EEC-V on a focus.

 

[TampaSport20]

There is one issue that no one has addressed yet; the fact that the programming in our ECU's is built to make it very hard for the tuning to be changed. It's possible, because Mazda has issued a reflash for the MSP, but it's not going to be as simple to change as a standard EEC-V on a focus.

I've also heard you can reflash a NA ecu to MP3 specs, but Mazda techs aren't SUPPOSED to do it....I wonder what equipment they use to do it ??? I imagine it would have to be something similar to what this guy uses thru the diagnostic port

 

[Kooldino]

Moderators - just trying to be informative...not trying to sell.

SCT now has the Advantage software for 94-02 Mazdas and Probes. There are 4 products:

4 program "flip" chips for the older EECIV/EECV with a J-3 connector.
The XCal1 flasher can be flashed with 3 programs.
The XCal2 flasher can be flashed with 3 programs. The XCal2 also has a built in datalogger and scan tool.
The Racer package which includes software for your specific PCM and a flasher or chip for your car.

The flashers are very easy to use since they reflash through the diag port = no parts to remove. They are VIN locked to the specific vehicle but can be unlocked if the original vehicle is returned to the stock program.

To reflash with the XCal1 or XCal2 requires stopping the vehicle, hooking up the flasher and making the change.

The chip requires removing the EEC and cleaning the port, installing the chip.
The 4-position chip and switch can be changed anytime on the fly.

If you could get this working well on a Protege, you will get a lot of business...

 

[peepsalot]

Somethin gjust came to mind. On our cars we have a normal OBD-II port under the driver's side dashboard, but there is another port in the engine bay. Is this the "real" service port, since the ones on our ECU's are supposedly disabled? If not, what is that port for?

 

[PR5Matt]

Moderators - just trying to be informative...not trying to sell.

SCT now has the Advantage software for 94-02 Mazdas and Probes. There are 4 products:

4 program "flip" chips for the older EECIV/EECV with a J-3 connector.
The XCal1 flasher can be flashed with 3 programs.
The XCal2 flasher can be flashed with 3 programs. The XCal2 also has a built in datalogger and scan tool.
The Racer package which includes software for your specific PCM and a flasher or chip for your car.

The flashers are very easy to use since they reflash through the diag port = no parts to remove. They are VIN locked to the specific vehicle but can be unlocked if the original vehicle is returned to the stock program.

To reflash with the XCal1 or XCal2 requires stopping the vehicle, hooking up the flasher and making the change.

The chip requires removing the EEC and cleaning the port, installing the chip.
The 4-position chip and switch can be changed anytime on the fly.

Thank you for responding. No matter what I believe these guys have their minds made up that it is not possible. I guess I will have to be the test subject.

 

[petec]

The Ford stuff isn't exactly "Hooked on Phonics" easy either. Its only because so many companies put the time and money into developing the software and flash technology that the Ford stuff was cracked.

Mazda hasn't had the volumes/attention for the big companies to go after until now.

There is no secret "Japanese" code in these PCMs. They are very similar to any other company's in function/code/design.

 

[petec]

Somethin gjust came to mind. On our cars we have a normal OBD-II port under the driver's side dashboard, but there is another port in the engine bay. Is this the "real" service port, since the ones on our ECU's are supposedly disabled? If not, what is that port for?

I'll have to look into this... I know the OBDII works under the dash but I don't know about the one under the hood.

 

[Hughes412]

Well I can say for a fact that if you get this thing to work and prove a good gain I'll be the first in line.