Has anyone read the article in the new Motor Trend comparing the P5, the WRX wagon, and the Matrix? It says the same thing that all of the other reviews have said. Good handling, but needs more power. They also said that it doesnt have much cargo room for a wagon. It has plenty of room for all of my crap, so thats good enough for me. A lot of their praise goes to the WRX, but that is also much more expensive than the P5. If I spent the difference in prices on performance mods there is no question in my mind that i could beat the WRX they tested.
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LambOfSilence
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Amen, brother, interesting comparison with WRX and P5, though, they are not exactly the right match.
In the article it said that they had just upgraded to a step one set of rims and tires. That alone cost somewhere around $3000. Don't quote me on that price though. It should have give the WRX the advantage in handling, but the P5 still beat it out! That has to say something about how good the suspension is on our cars!
WhiteZoomZoom
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What are tokicos ??
makeminemazda
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Hey Whitezoomzoom. Tokico is the brand name of a shock absorber manufacturer. Go to www.tokicogasshocks to see info on them.
WhiteZoomZoom
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But are tokicos good shocks ?? The website site doesn't work
sundevilMP5
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hey equinox...
where did you hear that we have tokicos stock?? cuz if it's true that would be sweet...even though right now i'm kinda doubtful.
whitezoomzoom...
as far as shocks go....tokicos are probably the best shocks to can get without going to a full coilover setup...
where did you hear that we have tokicos stock?? cuz if it's true that would be sweet...even though right now i'm kinda doubtful.
whitezoomzoom...
as far as shocks go....tokicos are probably the best shocks to can get without going to a full coilover setup...
I dont no if struts and shocks are the same thing or not but in an artical found at http://www.carbuytip.com/reviews/2002_mazda_protege5.html they say "MacPherson struts in front, with Mazda's proven Twin-Trapezoidal Link system in the rear."
Todd
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adragonfly
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I read that article... Guess we don't have Tokico's... Bummer! Got my hopes up for a sec!
McPherson strut is a TYPE of suspension setup, where the strut/shock (they are the same thing) is placed in the middle of the spring, a simple(read cheap), compact, yet very effective setup.
McPherson IS NOT A BRAND. just want to clear that up
still would like to know who makes the OEM shocks for the standard Pro and the P5
McPherson IS NOT A BRAND. just want to clear that up
still would like to know who makes the OEM shocks for the standard Pro and the P5
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The matrix XRS isn't even in the Matrix's segment. If they're kicking out their comparably equipped versions, it would have to be the P5 vs the Matrix XR, and the WRX wouldn't even be in the running. If anything, I'd put a PT Cruiser in the comparison just to get it's ass kicked and give some padding to the 2nd place car in this analysis.
Comparing the xrs instead of the xr (which is way closer to the P5's trim and price range) is stupid, of course you're going to get more engine for that kinda money. (the XRS' 1.8 celica engine vs' the P5's regular 2.0L)
Comparing the xrs instead of the xr (which is way closer to the P5's trim and price range) is stupid, of course you're going to get more engine for that kinda money. (the XRS' 1.8 celica engine vs' the P5's regular 2.0L)
WRX Wagon and P5...not a real comparison I think
Ok, for one, the WRX has almost 100 more hp than the P5. It's also AWD. I think the WRX Wagon should be compared to other wagons like the A4 or S4 Avant, IS 300 Wagon, etc. that put out similar horsepower figures.
Also, the price. The WRX is a lot more expensive than the P5 or Matrix. I actually was looking to get a WRX, wagon or sedan, but it was just too expensive for me at this point in my life so I got the P5. It's a great car for the money you know.
As for the Matrix XRS, I give it to them in putting the Celica GTS motor in that ride. That's a fast motor, but with the taller/higher profile tires of the Matrix, it makes the car feel sluggish since the motor lacks much torque on the low end. Ok, that's my 2 cents.
Ok, for one, the WRX has almost 100 more hp than the P5. It's also AWD. I think the WRX Wagon should be compared to other wagons like the A4 or S4 Avant, IS 300 Wagon, etc. that put out similar horsepower figures.
Also, the price. The WRX is a lot more expensive than the P5 or Matrix. I actually was looking to get a WRX, wagon or sedan, but it was just too expensive for me at this point in my life so I got the P5. It's a great car for the money you know.
As for the Matrix XRS, I give it to them in putting the Celica GTS motor in that ride. That's a fast motor, but with the taller/higher profile tires of the Matrix, it makes the car feel sluggish since the motor lacks much torque on the low end. Ok, that's my 2 cents.
sundevilMP5
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everybody keeps saying that the WRX wagon is sooo much better then the MP5...it's turbo charged, AWD, etc. etc...but what you have to remember is that the WRX is close to it not 10k more then our cars...give me that extra money and i'll make my P5 just as fast...yes i want a WRX and yes some day i'll get one but for right now my P5 is best for me(college is expensive)
not to mention for an econobox like ours to hang beat the WRX is pretty sweet!!
not to mention for an econobox like ours to hang beat the WRX is pretty sweet!!
sundevilMP5
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please do post those pics...i'm really surprised that we have tokicos stock...no wonder our stock suspension is sooooo good...lol
