Millenia engine info

[LinuxRacr]

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[Captain KRM P5]

What about a millenia swap to protege, anybody got sizes on this miller cycle?

i honestly am of the opinion that a JDM KL-ZE swap would be a far better idea and give you much more potential to work with.

 

[flat_black]

The KL-ZE is at least a conventional engine, so you have a good platform to strap an ECU to, at least. The Millenia S' engine would definitly be difficult to get working properly, even with the most advanced of engine managment options.

 

[mazdasly75]

Not to mention that the "S" comes only in ATX version.....ain't no fun to drive.

210hp...and it stops there. You can expect no gain from what ever stuffs you'll hook to it. All of the goodies would have to be customized.

 

[MACEY]

Would even a KL series be possible in a protege. You would have to use transmissions from the KL's and therefore I assume the axles etc as well. I mean if it would be possible for a price anywhere near a reliable complete turbo kit, then I for one would be interested. It sounds awful doubtful to me that it would fit though.

Marcus

 

[jred321]

people have swapped kl's into probes that had an fs motor. probably could be done with a protege too, not worth it imho

 

[mazdasly75]

people have swapped kl's into probes that had an fs motor. probably could be done with a protege too, not worth it imho

The "k" series fits perfectly into the proteg 90-94. It has the same engine bay as the mx3.

For this to be possible, you have to:

-gets engine mounts from any probe/mx6/mx3/626/millenia.
-mx3 or millenia exaust manifolds/mx3 downpipe
-curved style intake manifold from millenia/eunos 800 j-spec/mx3. The mx-6 j-spec wont fit.
-swap the brake booster from a mx3GS (V6)
-cross member from the mx3.
-and of course the ecu
-custom cat back exaust

Of course you would need a stiffer front suspension, since the engine is heavier than the little bp.

a lot of acceleration fun....

 

[jred321]

i assumed the person asking meant the car he drives, i.e. a p5, not a 1g.
even so, the kl motor isn't worth the swap in my opinion.

 

[MACEY]

differences

The "k" series fits perfectly into the proteg 90-94. It has the same engine bay as the mx3.

For this to be possible, you have to:


-mx3 or millenia exaust manifolds/mx3 downpipe

This is a question about the down pipe. How is the down pipe different from the millenia and that found in the mx-6/pgt etc? I am curious due to the want of possibly adding hotshot/bosal headers and whether they would fit?

Marcus

 

[mazdasly75]

My Kl is now tuned to 265 of N/A bhp @ 8200rpm.....isn't worth the swap like you say, but i'm still having fun on the track.

 

[jred321]

umm, how? what do you have done to it? are you on pt?

 

[mazdasly75]

The dowpipe is different, cause the exaust manifold is different too. If you use an exaust manifold from mx3 with mx6 downpipe, the flanges would be offsets.

The lenght of both downpipe are quite different. The mx3 is shorter than mx6/626. You would have problem fitting cat over mx6's one.

There's difference between OBDII exaust manifold and OBDI. OBDII have pre-cat, so the manifold is a bit longer. In this case you need a 96/up downpipe application.

 

[mazdasly75]

My signature says....

Actually, no ones tuned correctly interprep's 9.4 cams, wich I did with the SDS unit.

 

[Miller Time]

Sounds like a terrific project, even if a royal pain in the ass.

Couple of questions:

How would you handle feeding the intercoolers? There's so little clearance between the top of the engine and hood on the Millenia that Mazda integrated some of the induction plumbing into the hood. Scoops behind the grille curve up and into the hood, then back down to the 'coolers -- one at the front of the engine -- one closer to the firewall. Rubber collars seal the system when the hood is shut.

Other question is the transmission. Only autos were offered on the S. Is there a direct fit with other Mazda 5 speeds? And if so -- how do you remap the engine management system to account for the loss of traction control? Is that even an issue?

 

[mazdasly75]

OK...we were talking about the millenia's 2.5L KL engine

 

[flat_black]

It's a KJ engine, actually. =) KJ-ZEM.

 

[Miller Time]

OK...we were talking about the millenia's 2.5L KL engine

Doh!

..........ahem.....never mind....nothing to see here....go back about your business....