Microtech EMS
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twilightprotege
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TurfBurn said:When does your sig get updated to say "Microtech coming"
donesie
I'm scheduling to spend some tender time with my oscilliscope and my Microtech setup on Friday night to answer the sequential questions. Also I'll be swapping out my injectors and generating another NA stock injector base map so that it is available for the NA guys that are in the works right now. 
Later!
Steve
Later!
Steve
I forgot the dang oscilliscope at work... and the building is locked down so I can't get it. SOOO.... I'll be putting the taps in place that I need this weekend, and I'll hope to scope it then Tuesday or Wednesday night. Kind of annoyed with myself for not remembering to bring that thing home... grr...
scoped the Microtech tonight... the word is without the cam sensor it runs a modified batch algorithm. It fires the 1 and 4 injector and the 2 and 3 injector together. So you do end up with an injector firing at the right time, but you also end up with a semi-batch firing of the injectors... it obviously works just fine and is a combination of two methods really... so I would say it is more arguable to call the Microtech semi-sequential.
Later!
Steve
EDIT: Let me know if you want the scope files posted and I will do so!
Later!
Steve
EDIT: Let me know if you want the scope files posted and I will do so!
MPNick said:
Well, if you put the Microtech in Batch mode, it fires all 4 injectors together... versus if you run it in sequential it is breaking the injectors up.. hence I'd call it semi-sequential instead of batch.. because it certainly is not firing the full bank in one series.
I'll talk to the factory though, they should be able to add a configuration to it to make it run true sequential... We'll see.... but I'm very happy with how it runs, Dave is as well, and hopefully as more customers get added they will be happy too!
Later,
Steve
We'll see.... but I'm very happy with how it runs, Dave is as well, and hopefully as more customers get added they will be happy too!Later,
Steve
flat_black
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This two and two firing matches the waste spark system. *nods* What with firing two sparks at the same time, and all.
Yeah, it is matched to the spark system basically.. they fire at significantly different times, but they are similar in how they work... the upside is you will always have an injector fire when the intake valve is open, and also, at high r's you are populating the air beforehand with an earlier charge of gasoline from the injector... so it's certainly not a bad way to run as you are getting a good mixture between the two...
The Microtech does allow you to change the angle it fires those injectors at relative to TDC of that given piston. You can alter the angle based on RPM's for the setup.. so you have control to find the sweetspot in all cases.
The Microtech does allow you to change the angle it fires those injectors at relative to TDC of that given piston. You can alter the angle based on RPM's for the setup.. so you have control to find the sweetspot in all cases.
So then not true sequential. True sequential is each injector fires when that cylinder needs it right? I can understand your "semi-sequential", but it's still not sequential. Non the less I'm sure it will work fine, like the haltech.
Like is said above, you would need microtech to do something to incorporate a CAS to get it true sequential, if you talk to them about it. And no one ever said there would be a problem running it this way so don't take this post as a negative.
It is great that you are being honest and posting all the facts about it, unlike some of the others! This makes me like the unit that much more because the truth is out there and you are posting you true results. Great job man, keep up the good work!!!!!!!!
MPNick said:
Like is said above, you would need microtech to do something to incorporate a CAS to get it true sequential, if you talk to them about it. And no one ever said there would be a problem running it this way so don't take this post as a negative.
It is great that you are being honest and posting all the facts about it, unlike some of the others! This makes me like the unit that much more because the truth is out there and you are posting you true results. Great job man, keep up the good work!!!!!!!!
Right.. it's not true sequential... but it is still choosing a sequence and it knows which cylinders are where so it is given them fuel, it simply doesn't have the knowledge right now as to which is on the compression stroke so it feeds both TDC pistons fuel. it is not batch firing all 4 injectors as is done with some old cars and in some other applications (relatively common to run a second fuel rail as a single batch).
Correciton.. the CMP sensor (cam sensor) is the one I'd need to integrate... it already uses the CAS (crank) sensor.
Yeah, it's not an issue, and it identifies exactly how the system runs. So now if I can have them modifiy it or not to become true sequential, then I'd be all set...
Do you guys know off hand whether the double dash or the single dash on the cam is the one that indicates the compression stroke for which cylinder?
Thanks!
Correciton.. the CMP sensor (cam sensor) is the one I'd need to integrate... it already uses the CAS (crank) sensor.
Yeah, it's not an issue, and it identifies exactly how the system runs. So now if I can have them modifiy it or not to become true sequential, then I'd be all set...
Do you guys know off hand whether the double dash or the single dash on the cam is the one that indicates the compression stroke for which cylinder?
Thanks!
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TurfBurn said:
Cool!
