Stormtrooper77 said:
You are right, but it is $900 a month to finance it over 60 months. He might not want a payment that high. Leases can be a good deal if the program is very aggressive, but unfortunately the program isn't agressive on this car.
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You are right, but it is $900 a month to finance it over 60 months. He might not want a payment that high. Leases can be a good deal if the program is very aggressive, but unfortunately the program isn't agressive on this car.
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Mazda3 said:
Hahaha... wow. Did I strike a nerve there? It was clear they were interested in showing the car to a few people, as it was one of the ones they ordered that wasn't spoken for. I guarantee I would never have gone through that if I was 35 or so. And "price range" is usually just something I do to make myself pretend I'm looking at more practical cars. We're all car enthusiasts here and it would be no fun if you followed a strict budget!
I don't even know what to say about people who would buy a car without even test driving it, it's ridiculous even thinking about it. I don't care if it's limited production or whatever. This isn't a bicycle, it's a $45,000 car taxes in, I'm damn well going to make sure it's the right one for me. They're not getting a cent until I'm sure I want the car. And I don't think there's anything wrong with shopping for a car that way.
And saying the new Civic Si has an ugly, cheap ass interior goes to show how much of a fanboi you are. Have fun with that Mazda 3 (first)
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I'm leasing because my wife has a business and it is officially the company car. I write off a large portion of the lease payment on my taxes. I am leasing instead of buying primarily because while I finish my residency I can keep the payments lower than if I finance. Once I am done my program I will buy it outright.
Anywho......this ******* car rocks! It is really raining now so I won't take any pics yet, but it is the s***!
The Mazda Canada Rep from Toronto was here and personally presented the car to me. The silver MS6 was delayed so right now this is the only one in Ottawa. They tinted it for free and they presented me with Mazda watches for my wife and I. Some additional Mazda goodies are apparently on their way as well.
As for the drive....? Tons of torque and NO turbo lag. Pulls like a monster in every gear. Clutch, as reported yesterday, is very, very touchy compared to the MSP. I stalled it about 6 or 7 times on my inaugural cruise. The keyless entry/ignition is awesome as well. Although not as loud as the MSP stereo, the Bose system is more than adequate and its subwoofer doesn't eat up all the trunk space like the MSP unit.
It is definitely a bigger car. You can feel it when you are decelerating (although the brakes grip like demons) or changing lanes. Its weight doesn't seem to matter much when accelerating though.
These are first impressions after keeping revs mostly below 3000 RPM and granny shifting. I can hardly wait until I can hammer it WOT!
Gotta run.
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Anywho......this ******* car rocks! It is really raining now so I won't take any pics yet, but it is the s***!
The Mazda Canada Rep from Toronto was here and personally presented the car to me. The silver MS6 was delayed so right now this is the only one in Ottawa. They tinted it for free and they presented me with Mazda watches for my wife and I. Some additional Mazda goodies are apparently on their way as well.
As for the drive....? Tons of torque and NO turbo lag. Pulls like a monster in every gear. Clutch, as reported yesterday, is very, very touchy compared to the MSP. I stalled it about 6 or 7 times on my inaugural cruise. The keyless entry/ignition is awesome as well. Although not as loud as the MSP stereo, the Bose system is more than adequate and its subwoofer doesn't eat up all the trunk space like the MSP unit.
It is definitely a bigger car. You can feel it when you are decelerating (although the brakes grip like demons) or changing lanes. Its weight doesn't seem to matter much when accelerating though.
These are first impressions after keeping revs mostly below 3000 RPM and granny shifting. I can hardly wait until I can hammer it WOT!
Gotta run.
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midnighter said:
Ok....I was a little abrasive in my post. But this is the kind of car that you have your mind 99% made up on based on what you've read. When you test drive the car you should be signing the papers after the drive unless the drive was an extreme disappointment. Its not a car that you casually take for a spin to compare to a dozen other cars and then kind of think about it. You do that with a mazda 6, but not a Speed 6. I can honestly tell you that at my local dealer it wouldn't matter if you were 18 or 50 you wouldn't be able to test drive the Speed 6 unless there was a deal pending. Of course each dealer will make there own "rules" about that. It might be different if each dealer had a dozen sitting there.
Anyway, no offense I just wanted to point out the other side of the coin.
I haven't actually sat in a 06 Civic yet, but the pictures I've seen are ugly IMO. The 05 Civic has a Chevy Cavalier quality interior, sorry but this is a fact. So unless the 06 quality has improved by about ten times it won't hold a candle to the Mazda 3.
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Mazda3 said:
Well then I apologize for being offensive in my response, I became quite defensive after your initial post. Perhaps I worded my experience with the Speed 6 incorrectly, but this is a car I've been fascinated by ever since I heard about it sometime last year. Yes, my friend and I were going around testing a few cars and I was planning to look at the Mazda6 and perhaps the RX-8, it was only by chance that the Mazdaspeed 6 had become available, and I longed to take a look at it.
I understand what you mean to some degree, I wouldn't want to buy a car that's been flogged about by a few others. But I didn't drive it very hard, and considering it's the dealership's first I'd be very surprised if it didn't have some hard-earned miles from the higher sales reps, etc. already. I know when I worked at Ford and we got our first 05 GT's in, all the salespeople took turns taking that GT out. Depends on the quality of the dealership of course, but this wasn't a dealership I would bear a lot of trust in.
I took an '06 Civic out for a drive on Saturday and found it to be a very nice car, loved the whole car, especially the interior. Personally I think it's very high quality, but I'm generally into a more futuristic look which is why perhaps the Speed 6's didn't jump out at me as much.
midnighter said:
Like I said in another thread cosmetics is always personal preference. The pics I've seen of the 06 interior don't appeal to me, maybe its better in person, we'll see. As far as the quality goes I'll have to take your word for it until I get to see one up close myself.
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crossbow said:Wicked,
Estimates are a 0-60 of high 5's or low 6's, with a quarter mile time of low 14's. (Possibility of high 13's on a good day with a skilled driver).
Congrats on the car rainman...it took forever!!! Take photos when its nice out please.
I think those times are always a little tough to tell with a 4WD car as well, since in most tests I've seen the drivers tend to ease them off the line when they're 4WD rather than launch them. Atleast the Top Gear drivers seem to.
Well the car's only 4WD if the tires slip. The second they stop slipping its FWD again. 100:0 is the standard distribution setup by the differential. This is actually benefical, because there is less drivetrain loss if the car only has to drive the front wheels. You get the benefit of an AWD launch, with the drivetrain loss of a standard FWD platform. (Should be around 14-15%)
Going by the Volvo S60R, which is slightly heavier (about 50 lbs) with more power output and displacement (300/295), the times are about right.
Interesting enough...the volvo R's also come with 235/45/17 on 17x8's.
Going by the Volvo S60R, which is slightly heavier (about 50 lbs) with more power output and displacement (300/295), the times are about right.
Interesting enough...the volvo R's also come with 235/45/17 on 17x8's.
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crossbow said:
Yeah, I have some understand of the system - not all of it though. But I figure if you launch hard it will act just as a normal 4WD car. Since I've driven the car, I know first-hand - 4WD activates BEFORE the tires slip, not after, if you know what I mean. It should grab as well off the line as any all-time 4WD car.
Aye I understand as well. Let me rephrase...
If the tires were to slip, AWD engages. If they aren't, your in FWD mode.
Aka if your at the strip, you launch as an AWD car, and the second your moving, you get the drivetrain loss of a FWD car. Best of both worlds in terms of acceleration.
If the tires were to slip, AWD engages. If they aren't, your in FWD mode.
Aka if your at the strip, you launch as an AWD car, and the second your moving, you get the drivetrain loss of a FWD car. Best of both worlds in terms of acceleration.
Wanna ride in the MS6?
Just a little clip I took this morning so you all could get a feel for the MS6. It was raining and I'm breaking her in before my first oil change at ~500 km. I hammered her during the first 30 km....lots of variable speeds, nothing too much over 3000-4000 RPM but lotsa application of the throttle (no WOT yet, but 3/4 for short bursts). Between 40 and 500 km I'm keeping it under 3000 RPM. After the first oil change I'll max it at 4500 or so until the next change at 1000 km. Then I'll top it up with Mobil 1 and experience all of the MS6 glorious zoom-zoom-zoom!
This clip is lo-res so that I could get it on Putfile.
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Just a little clip I took this morning so you all could get a feel for the MS6. It was raining and I'm breaking her in before my first oil change at ~500 km. I hammered her during the first 30 km....lots of variable speeds, nothing too much over 3000-4000 RPM but lotsa application of the throttle (no WOT yet, but 3/4 for short bursts). Between 40 and 500 km I'm keeping it under 3000 RPM. After the first oil change I'll max it at 4500 or so until the next change at 1000 km. Then I'll top it up with Mobil 1 and experience all of the MS6 glorious zoom-zoom-zoom!
This clip is lo-res so that I could get it on Putfile.
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crossbow said:
Will do. It doesn't look too big from the driver's position, but there is definitely a noticeable depth to the hood height. It isn't obtrusive, but you instantly recognize it is not quite normal.
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