Mazdaspeed 6 UPDATE + Check pg 5 for detailed PICS!

Thanks all. Definitely feeling rims in black. Just not sure which ones yet. Post pics of your favs and we'll plan from there.

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Put an 18 on that or 19 would look beautiful. These are BBS LM and they're polished lip and slightly gun metal in the middle.
 
Nah...downsize. Go with the Sti/Evo tire/wheel sizing. There is a good reason why they run that setup!

17x8's with 235/45/17's.
 
midnighter said:
Hmm.. came lurking for a bit of info but it seems not many people here have seen it yet either.

I had the wonderful opportunity to test-drive one today. The car's a bit out of my price range (I was looking at the new Civic Si, 10k cheaper) but this car is so much damn fun. The power band is huge, though the engine runs a bit out of breath near redline, and it's a really fun car to drive. The interior isn't as nice as the new Civic imo, but it's still really good.

Had a fully loaded black with black/white leather seats, keycard entry, etc. Man... I had to talk to the salesguy for an hour before he even let me drive the damn thing, which was incredibly insulting and I almost started yelling at him... but they eventually gave in. They got it on Friday, it was still in the plastic, and I think I was one of the first people to take it for a test drive.

This thing PULLS like mad... in the rain. With no tire slippage. The suspension's great, very firm but still soaking up bumps. I had so much fun in this car I'm trying to work around my finances to see if it's doable. Even a lease would be great. I've never driven a turbo car before, but this is unlike all I've heard about other turbo cars. Oodles of torque around 3k rpm, a bit underpowered around 2k but that's just cruising speed anyway.

I've been eyeing this car ever since I started hearing about it a year ago. I never really thought I'd consider owning one considering its price, but it's a hell of a car.

Only problem I had with it is I found the clutch very touchy and a little awkward. I suppose it will take some getting used to, but in general it doesn't seem as easy to drive as it should be...


So let me get this straight?
You felt insulted that they didn't want you to test drive a limited production, exclusive car that was still in the plastic? And by your own addmission the car is out of your price range? And now that you have driven it most car enthusiasts would no longer buy that one? Cars at dealers aren't there to drive just for the hell of it, test drives are for people who are actually going to buy the car. My local dealer wouldn't have let you drive the Speed 6. You would have to sign the offer to purchase, leave a deposit, and have your credit approved first. Buy the way $5000 down will get you a lease payment of about $600 a month, not $400.

Do you really think they should let everyone who feels like it test drive this exclusive car? Thats just bad business. Each dealer is only getting between 1-4 of these and you want them to mile up a demo for punks to test drive? LOL.....wow.

And buy the way the Civic Si has an ugly cheap ass interior.
 
Fusz is getting like 6 or more...we're signed up for atleast 6 now and will prolly get more shortly after. I didn't think the MS 6 was as limited as the 3rd gen Limited Miata, I figured it was like the MazdaSpeed Miata which we had a good number of(and still have 2 left).
 
5k down a 600 a month??? On a lease??? That's rediculous. I guess residuals aren't that strong on it yet.
 
MazKid said:
Fusz is getting like 6 or more...we're signed up for atleast 6 now and will prolly get more shortly after. I didn't think the MS 6 was as limited as the 3rd gen Limited Miata, I figured it was like the MazdaSpeed Miata which we had a good number of(and still have 2 left).

Canada is only 750 between 150 dealers. We don't have designated Speed dealers so every dealer gets at least one. The US is allocated somewhere in the 3000-5000 unit range. Because the US has designated Speed dealers the dealers that get them will get 6 or 8 of them.
 
1killercls said:
5k down a 600 a month??? On a lease??? That's rediculous. I guess residuals aren't that strong on it yet.

Yeah, the residuals are weak. But keep in mind that $600 is CDN dollars and includes 15% sales tax. Take off the tax and convert to US dollars and its about $400 dollars a month.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Mazda is VERY strong in Canada. They sell almost as many Mazda's in Canada as they do in the US with 1/10 the population. Mazda is one of the top rated brands here and the Mazda 3 has been the number one selling car in the country for the last 6 months. The Protege has the highest resale of any car in Canada right now. So with success like that they won't have the cheapest cars.
 
Stormtrooper77 said:
$715 on a lease! Wow!

Why wow? Its a $40,000 car.
What can you lease a Acura TL, Infinit G35, or Legacy GT limited for?
 
48 month lease taxes paid with $0 down:

TL $750/mo
G35 $775/mo
Legacy GT $835/mo WOW!!!

$835/mo for a Subaru? Thats nuts!!
 
Mazda3 said:
Yeah, the residuals are weak. But keep in mind that $600 is CDN dollars and includes 15% sales tax. Take off the tax and convert to US dollars and its about $400 dollars a month.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Mazda is VERY strong in Canada. They sell almost as many Mazda's in Canada as they do in the US with 1/10 the population. Mazda is one of the top rated brands here and the Mazda 3 has been the number one selling car in the country for the last 6 months. The Protege has the highest resale of any car in Canada right now. So with success like that they won't have the cheapest cars.

Residuals are based upon a money factor and RESALE VALUES. If the resale was so strong on Mazda products the Residual/Guaranteed Future Value would in turn be very high as well. Higher residuals mean LOWER PAYMENTS.

My thinking is, its the first year for the car, so resale values have not been set so therefore residuals will be low. this makes the payment larger.

Anyway you slice it, I wouldn't lease that car until the residuals go up. Then it might be worth it. Just my humble opinion. :)
 
Mazda3 said:
48 month lease taxes paid with $0 down:

TL $750/mo
G35 $775/mo
Legacy GT $835/mo WOW!!!

$835/mo for a Subaru? Thats nuts!!

My mother leased an 05 TL w/Navi $1500.00 out of pocket $455.00 a month Tax Included (6.5%) for 39 months 12k miles a year. (first)
 
1killercls said:
Residuals are based upon a money factor and RESALE VALUES. If the resale was so strong on Mazda products the Residual/Guaranteed Future Value would in turn be very high as well. Higher residuals mean LOWER PAYMENTS.

My thinking is, its the first year for the car, so resale values have not been set so therefore residuals will be low. this makes the payment larger.

Anyway you slice it, I wouldn't lease that car until the residuals go up. Then it might be worth it. Just my humble opinion. :)

I understand how a lease works. The residuals are 5%-8% higher on most of the other Mazda products. Mazda has already stepped up on the price compared to its competition in Canada, I guess they figure they don't need to step up on the residual to sell the cars. As you can see above it still leases cheaper than the competition even with the poor residuals.
 
1killercls said:
My mother leased an 05 TL w/Navi $1500.00 out of pocket $455.00 a month Tax Included (6.5%) for 39 months 12k miles a year. (first)

We are discussing the Canadian market, what you can lease a TL in Florida has no bearing here.

The TL with that package sells for $47,000 dollars, you can't lease it for 4 something a month with a $1500 down payment. Also Acura dickers very little on their pricing here so she would be paying over $800 a month to lease that car here.
 
Mazda3 said:
Why wow? Its a $40,000 car.
What can you lease a Acura TL, Infinit G35, or Legacy GT limited for?

I'm not doubting the price, I'm just saying for that amount you should probably buy. That is unless he is leasing it under a company. You will always lose out on a lease if you are not a business and are planning on keeping the car.
 
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