Mazdaspeed 3

[Brian MP5T]

I am in the market for a new car in the fall, i may trade mine in, now i want one soon. Should i wait for the mazdaspeed 3 or get a 3 and customize it(turbo, kit. etc)?

Don't bother with the Turbo 3...

Just get an Rx and be happy!!! (yippy)

A Stock Rx will smoke a Turbo three...

And you wont have to worry about such things as..

Plastic Intake Manifold.
Dificult Engine Placement Etc...

 

[goldwing2000]

Don't bother with the Turbo 3...

Just get an Rx and be happy!!! (yippy)

A Stock Rx will smoke a Turbo three...

And you wont have to worry about such things as..

Plastic Intake Manifold.
Dificult Engine Placement Etc...

... decent gas mileage.

I think even a turbo 3 would get more than the 13-15 mpg that RX people are getting.

 

[Brian MP5T]

... decent gas mileage.

I think even a turbo 3 would get more than the 13-15 mpg that RX people are getting.

Let me get this together so we are on the same wavelength...

GAS MILEAGE???​

(eek2)​

I really think you are missing the point of Turbo's and Superchargers.​

 

[slug420]

are you saying an rx8 would be faster than a turbo 3?

from what i have seen the rx8 is barely faster than the turbo protege.....

 

[goldwing2000]

Let me get this together so we are on the same wavelength...

GAS MILEAGE???​

(eek2)​

I really think you are missing the point of Turbo's and Superchargers.​

If you have money to burn, more power to you. Myself, I have to think about a complete vehicle, not just a toy to play with on weekends.

 

[Brian MP5T]

are you saying an rx8 would be faster than a turbo 3?

from what i have seen the rx8 is barely faster than the turbo protege.....

The originator of the thread was talking about how dificult it is to design and build a Custom turbo kit for the Mazda 3.

After building on myself from scratch, it was a very long and work intensive undertaking. I was merely suggesting that a better car (RX-8) as far as being a sports car rather than a family sedan, might suit the bill better than starting out with a car that has many "Turbo Drawbacks" such as high compression and a plastic intake manifold...

 

[Lil Freek]

EBC - set boost to 8oz when city driving good mileage that way

some of us just can't FIT in an rx-8, thank you.... although i find the 3 to be a much tighter fit than the protege

 

[Lil Freek]

on a side note... i just HOPE they get a REAL manifold for the MS3.. that would be so dumb to have it in plastic - talk about feeble and resistant

 

[Brian MP5T]

If you have money to burn, more power to you. Myself, I have to think about a complete vehicle, not just a toy to play with on weekends.

I'll put it to you this way then...

A Turbo Kit cost from $3000.00 to $10,000.00 depending on how much you expect from the kit as far as WHP Gains.

You would have to be a complete "Butt Tart" to worry about the price of a cup of coffee after spending $3000.00+ on something thats sole purpose is to use more gas to add HP?

(braindead​

Mileage is important, yes, it is a numerical value placed on how well a car uses the energy to make motion. Very good. The driver who proposes to Boost His/Her car with a system such as a turbo isn't concerned with fuel econ. He/She is totally worried about WHP at the cost of fuel and even a waranty.​

 

[slug420]

some of us just can't FIT in an rx-8, thank you.... although i find the 3 to be a much tighter fit than the protege

i think I fit in the 8 although it was a tight fit.....and the 3 is definitely tighter than the protege but I think its a valid tradeoff since what makes it a little tighter is how much nicer the interior is

 

[goldwing2000]

I'll put it to you this way then...

A Turbo Kit cost from $3000.00 to $10,000.00 depending on how much you expect from the kit as far as WHP Gains.

You would have to be a complete "Butt Tart" to worry about the price of a cup of coffee after spending $3000.00+ on something thats sole purpose is to use more gas to add HP?

Speaking of "Butt Tart", I'm talking about the RX-8 getting bad mileage. If you had actually comprehended what I wrote in my first post, you would see that I was advocating a turbo on the 3.

I think even a turbo 3 would get more than the 13-15 mpg that RX people are getting.

Even if you spent $3,000-$5,000 on the turbo installation, you'd still be further ahead financially

Mileage is important, yes, it is a numerical value placed on how well a car uses the energy to make motion. Very good. The driver who proposes to Boost His/Her car with a system such as a turbo isn't concerned with fuel econ. He/She is totally worried about WHP at the cost of fuel and even a waranty.

That's just not true. Granted, there are definitely some people who think that way but not all of them. You can boost a car to a point where it makes good power and still is able to be driven on a daily basis without breaking the bank.

 

[Loose]

That's just not true. Granted, there are definitely some people who think that way but not all of them. You can boost a car to a point where it makes good power and still is able to be driven on a daily basis without breaking the bank.

I agree. For me this is the most desireable form of a car, fast AND sensable to drive. If I just only to go fast I would have bought a diffrent car.

Tim

 

[Brian MP5T]

Just so you know, I was not trying to be a dick, just that you made a point of talking about what is a "Drop in an Ocean" when it comes to the big picture of reasons (Pro and Con) of a Turbo Mazda 3.

I think it's great, I must have because two years ago, I started to do exactly what people are talking about now. I think that you are correct that you could turbo a 3 and still be lower in overall cost versus a RX-8, but the 8 is a much better car stock than a mildly turboed 3 and well worth the extra $3000.00 IMO.

Speaking of "Butt Tart", I'm talking about the RX-8 getting bad mileage. If you had actually comprehended what I wrote in my first post, you would see that I was advocating a turbo on the 3.

Even if you spent $3,000-$5,000 on the turbo installation, you'd still be further ahead financially

That's just not true. Granted, there are definitely some people who think that way but not all of them. You can boost a car to a point where it makes good power and still is able to be driven on a daily basis without breaking the bank.

 

[goldwing2000]

Just so you know, I was not trying to be a dick, just that you made a point of talking about what is a "Drop in an Ocean" when it comes to the big picture of reasons (Pro and Con) of a Turbo Mazda 3.

Again, that's just an opinion.

But anyway... we should concentrate on getting a viable turbo package for the 3 instead of bickering about which car is or is not better. I chose the 3 over the RX-8 and Matrix because it fulfilled the highest number of my requirements.

If I can make it even better, then great!

So you think the plastic intake will really be a problem? How much boost do you suppose it will handle?

 

[Lil Freek]

i don't know what kind of plastic it is - do they mention it on the manual anywhere??
it depends on the amount of heat it can take vs. the temp of the air post-turbo. with an intercooler, it wouldn't be such an issue.

but plastic piping will suck for resistance... i'm hoping that any turbo kits that come out will replace the the plastic with metal..

 

[Brian MP5T]

Again, that's just an opinion.

But anyway... we should concentrate on getting a viable turbo package for the 3 instead of bickering about which car is or is not better. I chose the 3 over the RX-8 and Matrix because it fulfilled the highest number of my requirements.

If I can make it even better, then great!

So you think the plastic intake will really be a problem? How much boost do you suppose it will handle?

It will probably handle whatever you can throw at it. It's just a concern that's all. If it is designed to sit in a hot engine bay, it should be quite strong. I guess I'm just old school and like some parts to be metal.

 

[goldwing2000]

It will probably handle whatever you can throw at it. It's just a concern that's all. If it is designed to sit in a hot engine bay, it should be quite strong. I guess I'm just old school and like some parts to be metal.

I can definitely understand that. Hell, people used to b**** about aluminum intakes because they didn't think they could handle the stress that a cast iron one could.

Viva technology!

 

[Lil Freek]

the plastic should hold up to heat (good system shouldn't kill it).. but my #1 concern would be the drag/resistance caused by plastic.
i haven't seen the interior of the intake mani., so i can't say how slick it is and if they've come up with some kind of coating that makes it slick like metal

 

[Brian MP5T]

the plastic should hold up to heat (good system shouldn't kill it).. but my #1 concern would be the drag/resistance caused by plastic.
i haven't seen the interior of the intake mani., so i can't say how slick it is and if they've come up with some kind of coating that makes it slick like metal

If the molding is anything like the outside, it should be rather good!

 

[goldwing2000]

I wouldn't worry as much about heat as I would about pressure.
It was designed to hold vacuum, so it may or may not hold pressure as well. (dunno)