mazda2 skyactiv?

[KZL_99ES]

http://carguideblog.com/16493/2012-mazda2-skyactive-13liter-engine-revealed-demio/

[URL="http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/10/facelifted-mazda2-with-skyactiv-1-3l-revealed-in-japan/#continued"]http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/10/facelifted-mazda2-with-skyactiv-1-3l-revealed-in-japan/#continued

[URL="http://emotorauto.com/2011/05/21/2012-mazda2-1-3-liter-skyactiv-g-engine/"]http://emotorauto.com/2011/05/21/2012-mazda2-1-3-liter-skyactiv-g-engine/

he[/URL]r[/URL]e's some links of the 2 with the skyactiv engine, but does anyone know when it would come to the states?

 

[KZL_99ES]

oh, and there's no way that get a 2 if they started to look THIS bad...

 

[fam]

old articles. Its already avail in japan but with 84 some odd HP that motor wont make it to the states, itll be a bigger sky engine..110-130hp so mpg's will be high 40's is my guess. Possibly a 2013 model year it may have it as an option, but they are also going to build it in mexico. No one knows for sure until they have an announcement.

 

[KZL_99ES]

old articles. Its already avail in japan but with 84 some odd HP that motor wont make it to the states, itll be a bigger sky engine..110-130hp so mpg's will be high 40's is my guess. Possibly a 2013 model year it may have it as an option, but they are also going to build it in mexico. No one knows for sure until they have an announcement.

yeah, i figured they were older; why would they put a bigger engine in? maybe mid to upper 40's is good enough for the US...

would being built in mexico bad?

 

[PGTBrow]

I went to the dealer for the 5k free service and they said we are getting a diesel in 2013.... hmmm....

 

[fam]

japan's culture is that in which under powered cars are accepted...an 80hp motor in the 2 wouldnt cut it in the states unless gas rose to $7 a gallon, the US will get a little but bigger motor for the 2.

Yes...being built in mexico is bad in my opinion. Unless its made in Japan I probably wont buy it...(if they build a ms2, itd probably be built in japan anyway).

 

[KZL_99ES]

diesel would be awesome!

and americans are definitely greedy that way!

 

[magnumP5]

I wouldn't necessarily call Americans greedy in that respect; it's just the car culture developed differently over here. Highway driving and 50+ miles/day is very common here but almost unheard of in Europe/Japan. If all you do is short city driving you don't really need 100+ BHP and you need the most efficient engine possible due to all the stop-and-go traffic. Whereas over here if your car is taking 15, 20 seconds to get to 60 mi/hr you're nearly becoming a road hazard.

That being said I specifically asked about the Skyactiv in the 2 before I purchased mine. Granted he was just a salesman but I was told not to expect any engine changes in the 2 through 2013. This was a major selling point for me as I will be pissed if they release an engine capable of 50+ mi/gal within a year or two!

 

[KZL_99ES]

yeah, very true about us and driving our population density is not anywhere close to that of the EU or japan...lots of straight roads, hence muscle cars that can't turn, lol, jk

i do really like the 2, i'd love one, but the mpg is just not where i want it yet to get one...i'll have to wait another year or so before more talk of other engines coming to the US.

 

[XCLR8TN]

I stopped in the dealer to check out skyactiv and all they had were auto 3's. Bleh. Sales guy said a year and a half till we get the skyactiv 2.

 

[DrWebster]

Yes...being built in mexico is bad in my opinion. Unless its made in Japan I probably wont buy it.

+1 on both counts. I'll stop buying Mazdas if they're made in Mexico.

 

[Racebrewer]

"would being built in mexico bad? "

+2 Totally different culture. Many companies have gone to Mexico and pulled out after a couple years when their quality control went through the floor. Much of the world is like that.

Some companies have succeeded there, with lots of training, incentives and supervision, but then the cost is back up.

Under NAFTA, if enough of the car is built there, the duty rates drop to zero from 2.5% when the car comes into the U.S. which along with somewhat cheaper labor makes Mexico look good to a manufacturer.

John

 

[ElZoom]

Maybe the many problems that the Fiestas have is because they are made in Mexico.....The same applies to the Fiay 500's while the ones made in Poland are as reliable as a Mazda made in Japan.......I wouldnt have bought my 2 if it wasnt built in Japan.

 

[DrWebster]

Under NAFTA, if enough of the car is built there, the duty rates drop to zero from 2.5% when the car comes into the U.S. which along with somewhat cheaper labor makes Mexico look good to a manufacturer.

With any luck, Japan will join the TPP -- which won't level the playing field completely, but will help. The main reason Mazda plans to build cars in Mexico is because of how strong the yen is, so the best hope for us to continue to get Japan-built Mazdas is for the US dollar to strengthen.

 

[sullied]

I'd like to challenge the received wisdom about what U.S. drivers need. I had a 1980 49 HP (I'm pretty sure that's what it was) diesel rabbit for 10 years. Drove it from FL to OR over the Rockies towing a little trailer. In 10 years I never got into a dangerous situation because of the acceleration. And I see plenty of Geo Metros still on the road after almost 20 years, despite the bad rep they have.

I would really appreciate the option of buying a euro-style little car. I'm pretty sick of being told 'Americans won't buy them'.

 

[PGTBrow]

I commute along side of BMWs and AMGs everyday around the DC metro area... id prefer to have something a little faster of course but the 2 holds it own especially when bobbing and weaving.

 

[16vPete]

If Mazda strapped a turbo to a diesel and put it in the 2, imagine the torque that could be squeezed out of it with some tuning!