Mazda 6 and Mazdaspeed 6 performance

[Fede_italiano]

Do you guys know about this?

I just wanted to share.



Hello,

As everyone knows CPE has been looking for a mazdaspeed6 (MS6) donor car for a while. CPE has finally received one and has completed the first phase of engineering on it. First up for production is a cold air intake, after much study CPE decided this was the best value for the consumer. Testing proved the cold air intake provided cooler temperatures along the entire intake tract. The CPE team has spent considerable time measuring temperatures and engineering what we believe to be the best intake possible. For comparison CPE also fabricated a short ram warm air intake. It will also feature a redesigned heatshield that holds the ABS wiring harness up and out of the way. This way there is no chance of rubbing through the ABS wiring harness.

Our intake will not feature the MAF customizer at this time. CPE is waiting to see what Mazda does with the power loss issue and because it is a turbocharged car CPE would like to spend some extra time tuning it. CPE is also working to add boost control to the MAF Customizer before releasing it on the MS6. Some of you may be worried about CEL issues without the MAF Customzier. We will be offering a MONEY BACK GAURENTEE that our intake will not set a CEL. This is a result of careful design and proper engineering. Pricing will be comparable to a standard cold air intake.

As for cold air intake dyno graphs, this will happen as soon as possible. Once CPE gets the final version of the pipe finished we will be dynoing.

Im assuming that everyone would like to hear what CPE is planning next for the MS6. CPE is going to offer a turboback exhaust which will consist of the downpipe and catback system. CPE is going to be testing several versions of its own very high quality muffler design that is stainless steel throughout and completely hand fabricated. Most major manufacturers claim to have stainless steel mufflers but the internal parts of the muffler are regular steel. CPE will be trying several different muffler types on this car and testing them for horsepower and sound quality. CPE will most likely post sound clips on mazda6tech for consumer feedback. The cat-back will also be priced to compete with standard stainless catback systems. Dyno graphs of all the exhaust components will be provided on our website.

One of the items everyone is asking for is a front mount intercooler. CPE has some very innovative ideas for pipe routing and placement and our goal is to offer a very sleek and unobtrusive design that has a factory fit and finish. Intercooler performance testing will be performed to determine the optimum size and location.

Some people wonder why it takes a little longer for us to complete items for market. It is because serious engineering is expensive and time consuming. Many manufactures often times just fabricate something, with little to no engineering efforts, and start selling it. CPE takes the time to go through a formal engineering effort. This often entails the construction of several different versions of the same type of product. CPE takes pride in stressing over the fine details, things like optimumal intercooler placement and routing. In the end, CPE is confident that you, the consumer, will appreciate our efforts and benefit from the additional time spent.


Very Respectfully,

The CPE Team

www.cp-e.com
AMessina@cp-e.com
JAdams@cp-e.com

 

[scraejtp]

So no plans for a larger turbo kit for the MS6?

 

[genericuser]

good find fede! CP-E makes some good stuff!!!!!

 

[Newf]

CPE talks in 3rd person quite a bit

But CPE is thanked for their efforts.

Newf says bye to CPE

 

[Raynman]

So no plans for a larger turbo kit for the MS6?

It seems CP-E is prioritizing on fixing the limitations of the current design first before tackling the turbo (assuming that they will try for a larger turbo).

BTW, I'm a satisfied CP-E customer. If anyone can do it, it's CP-E.

 

[Newf]

It seems CP-E is prioritizing on fixing the limitations of the current design first before tackling the turbo (assuming that they will try for a larger turbo).
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Which is exactly what they should do. Good idea

Of course, it's sad that anyone has to do this in the first place as Mazda should have had enough of a clue after their last two attempts at a MAzdaspeed, and even after the delayed Mazdaspeed 6 launch to understand the concept of HEAT SOAK.

morons.

 

[Mazda3]

It seems CP-E is prioritizing on fixing the limitations of the current design first before tackling the turbo (assuming that they will try for a larger turbo).
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Which is exactly what they should do. Good idea

Of course, it's sad that anyone has to do this in the first place as Mazda should have had enough of a clue after their last two attempts at a MAzdaspeed, and even after the delayed Mazdaspeed 6 launch to understand the concept of HEAT SOAK.

morons.

I've studied all the info available on this "power loss" issue. It seems that its not necessarily heat soak. Its happening to a couple of Canadian owners at -20 temps. For whatever reason it seems the car is kicking into safe mode unnecessarily. It could be a simple software fix or improperly placed sensor. Hopefully it is a simple fix and Mazda will address it. You would think it would be crucial for them to have this fixed before the MS3 hits the lots at the end of summer.

When the car is running properly its a screamer. World of wheels magazine in Canada ran a 13.8 at 100.44 MPH 1/4 mile. Hopefully Mazda can fix this problem so the car runs like that all the time. It should also be noted that most owners are not experiencing this problem only a select few. Internet forums have a tendancy of blowing these things out of proportion.

 

[Newf]

I've studied all the info available on this "power loss" issue. It seems that its not necessarily heat soak. Its happening to a couple of Canadian owners at -20 temps. For whatever reason it seems the car is kicking into safe mode unnecessarily. It could be a simple software fix or improperly placed sensor. Hopefully it is a simple fix and Mazda will address it. You would think it would be crucial for them to have this fixed before the MS3 hits the lots at the end of summer.

When the car is running properly its a screamer. World of wheels magazine in Canada ran a 13.8 at 100.44 MPH 1/4 mile. Hopefully Mazda can fix this problem so the car runs like that all the time. It should also be noted that most owners are not experiencing this problem only a select few. Internet forums have a tendancy of blowing these things out of proportion.

Totally understand, totally agree and I too think there might be something else going on besides just Heat Soak. But I am not ruling out heat soak entirely and won't until we see these cars operate in the middle of July. Right now everything is just speculation on both sides of the fence. I've been bitching about it lately here and to a few Mazda people hoping it gets the attention it deserves. I've been around Mazda long enough to know how "well" they handle issues like this....sarcasm intended.

If you think they'll not release the Mazdaspeed 3 without fixing the hesitation in the 6 first, I got one word for you


CLUNK


They fully released the MSP knowing damn well it had suspension issues almost 2 years before it's release. I know because I told them myself and seen just how well MNAO and Mazda Canada can handle a situation.

The MS6 is a beast, and if it worked I'd be beggin for one. But not yet.

Perhaps they'll just detune the MS3 enough so that the fuel and heat isn't as much of a problem. It would probably run great around 220-230hp.

 

[Mazda3]

Totally understand, totally agree and I too think there might be something else going on besides just Heat Soak. But I am not ruling out heat soak entirely and won't until we see these cars operate in the middle of July. Right now everything is just speculation on both sides of the fence. I've been bitching about it lately here and to a few Mazda people hoping it gets the attention it deserves. I've been around Mazda long enough to know how "well" they handle issues like this....sarcasm intended.

If you think they'll not release the Mazdaspeed 3 without fixing the hesitation in the 6 first, I got one word for you


CLUNK


They fully released the MSP knowing damn well it had suspension issues almost 2 years before it's release. I know because I told them myself and seen just how well MNAO and Mazda Canada can handle a situation.

The MS6 is a beast, and if it worked I'd be beggin for one. But not yet.

Perhaps they'll just detune the MS3 enough so that the fuel and heat isn't as much of a problem. It would probably run great around 220-230hp.

I'm not saying they wouldn't release the MS3 without fixing the MS6 problem, just hoping someone is smart enough to see it will effect MS3 sales if they don't.

I'm sure the MS6 will lose a little power when its 90 out ( my friends GTI sure did), I just don't think that is the issue some people are having right now. I'm with you on this Newf, I'm interested in the MS6, MS3, and the CX-7, but I will wait to see how Mazda handles this issue first. By the way HP on the MS3 will be 253.

 

[chuyler1]

How soon with the U.S. be getting the MS3 anyway?

 

[Mazda3]

How soon with the U.S. be getting the MS3 anyway?

Its scheduled to hit dealer lots in Canada last week of August.

 

[Rainman]

Might have to part out the MSP in August.....LOL!

R

 

[Bigtymatt882]

AEM has released a CAI along with CPE, which one?

 

[PerfectXtreme]

I'd start with price... If they are the same... go with CPE... i have it... works / looks great... and AEM seems to hold the "ricer" image... making a lot of parts for hondas...

However is one or the other is considerably cheaper... might as well go with it... the difference is small i'm sure..

 

[Bigtymatt882]

AEM is $290, and cpe is $330, but AEM says its not loud,I think I'll go with CPE.