Manual or Automatic???

[leet83]

win-win for sure! aftermarket needs to hurry up cant wait till turbo kits come out for these things...

 

[ChewyChevy]

I should be happy I got a manual because it is the first thing a car must have in order to appeal to me. Dont care if you have a 1000 hp monster with auto, if you let the car shift, its not really called driving......I agree lasermp5's "chick appeal" thing haha (2thumbs)

I'm gonna be really biased on this subject, my sig says it all!
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Ever driven a 1000hp monster with an auto?? Not saying I have, but I've sat in a few high hp cars in my time. They aren't the easiest thing in the world to control.

And you're saying, many road, autox and drag racers out there are not really driving (as they're driving automatics)?? I might understand one saying, driving an automatic is not really racing (which is I'm guessing what you're trying to say??)

In all honesty, the fastest (drag racing) cars in the world are all autos. Autos hold more power than manuals in my experience. Are manuals more fun?? For some yes, for others no...it's subjective.

In addition to this automatics are getting better and better with sequential shift and general build. Think autos shift too early?? Change the shift point when you're at WOT. Can't do 5000 rpm clutch dumps?? Get a higher stall TC.

More money is getting put into automatic technology than manual. Most hundred thousand dollar ultimate super cars use sequential shift nowadays. Why?? Sequential shift allows one to keep one of your hands on the wheel, and keep each foot free.

Does the Mazda3 auto hold more power than the manual, I don't know. I haven't seen any car with the tranny really up to high hp numbers. But in due time??

Not dogging a manual, I have one in 6spd form, just wanted to drop some of my experiences and knowledge to perhaps change some viewpoints....

 

[misbehave]

Ever driven a 1000hp monster with an auto?? Not saying I have, but I've sat in a few high hp cars in my time. They aren't the easiest thing in the world to control.

And you're saying, many road, autox and drag racers out there are not really driving (as they're driving automatics)?? I might understand one saying, driving an automatic is not really racing (which is I'm guessing what you're trying to say??)

In all honesty, the fastest (drag racing) cars in the world are all autos. Autos hold more power than manuals in my experience. Are manuals more fun?? For some yes, for others no...it's subjective.

In addition to this automatics are getting better and better with sequential shift and general build. Think autos shift too early?? Change the shift point when you're at WOT. Can't do 5000 rpm clutch dumps?? Get a higher stall TC.

More money is getting put into automatic technology than manual. Most hundred thousand dollar ultimate super cars use sequential shift nowadays. Why?? Sequential shift allows one to keep one of your hands on the wheel, and keep each foot free.

Does the Mazda3 auto hold more power than the manual, I don't know. I haven't seen any car with the tranny really up to high hp numbers. But in due time??

Not dogging a manual, I have one in 6spd form, just wanted to drop some of my experiences and knowledge to perhaps change some viewpoints....

I am anxiously waiting the "double-clutch" CVT multi-tronic gearbox to become more popular among cars.

But until then, I think stick is still better for full control of the car, especially when cornering.

Using drag race as an example might be a bit non-practical, since you can't just drive stright all the time in the real world.

 

[jjac28]

manual is the best. it gives you more control and more power from the engine.
you can shift gears at 6k rpms to get most power from the engine, you cant do that with an automatic.
most manual cars are much quicker in acceleration as well ( 8.8sec to 60 in a manual, 10.9s with an auto for the mp5)

i drove an auto protege, i had problems merging into oncoming traffic than i bought my mp5 manual and now i have no problems at all. i run with the best of them.

look at scca and see what they drive...always a manual.
these drivers are the best in the world.

with an automatic the car drives you, with a manual you drive the car.

 

[goldwing2000]

In all honesty, the fastest (drag racing) cars in the world are all autos....

Not true. Top Fuel Dragsters and Funny Cars don't use transmissions at all. Just a basic clutch setup that transfers engine RPM directly to the rear wheels.

That notwithstanding, automatics are for housewives.

Yes, all the research and developement is going into autos. Ever wonder why? To make them drive more like a manual! With the obvious exception of CVTs, of course. Those are meant to make your car drive more like a golf cart.

Think about it... manumatics? Sequential shift? All to make the person think they are in actual control without actually giving them control. People want the control of a manual without the commitment of a clutch and they still want the ability to chicken out and be lazy.

 

[jersey_emt]

Not true. Top Fuel Dragsters and Funny Cars don't use transmissions at all. Just a basic clutch setup that transfers engine RPM directly to the rear wheels.

That notwithstanding, automatics are for housewives.

Yes, all the research and developement is going into autos. Ever wonder why? To make them drive more like a manual! With the obvious exception of CVTs, of course. Those are meant to make your car drive more like a golf cart.

Think about it... manumatics? Sequential shift? All to make the person think they are in actual control without actually giving them control. People want the control of a manual without the commitment of a clutch and they still want the ability to chicken out and be lazy.

Yes..when you're running a 4 second quarter mile you don't have time to shift...it's one gear only!

 

[goldwing2000]

Yes..when you're running a 4 second quarter mile you don't have time to shift...it's one gear only!

'Zactly.