Israeli Legislators to Washington: If You Don't Stop Iran, We Will

slayer4u said:
TStar, girth, Thankyou for not being stupid! It's nice to see someone with some accurate knowlage of history.(thumb)

matrix, quit while you're behind will ya? I would if I where you. I mean your intentions are good and all but you are just too dumb to get your facts strait. To continue would just make it worse.

take me for instance I can't spell worth a s*** half the time but I admit it and move one.
oh come on peoples... how has no one called him out on this stuff? that little disclaimer doesn't mean you can't give a little (poke) now and again...
if you're going to call people stupid you can't then spell like a fucktard and throw a disclaimer that you can't spell. I'm giving you the quasi-official (gtfo) until you read a dictionnary and get at least to the "L"s...

everyone can have an opinion; that's healthy. but don't call people st00pid if you can't spell or differentiate between homophones... its just bad form
 
TStar said:
you have absolutely no idea about germany or the germans at all and you dare to make such a comment? you shall burn in hell for the mindless poison you spread.

hey, 2 world wars in a span of 40 years have thought me everything i need to know about germany.
 
Matrix said:
Right...when you've got something worthwhile to contribute, you be sure to raise your hand and let an adult know, mmmmmmmkay? Greeeeeaaat.

I only post facts, son. Try cracking open some real grown-up books by credible authors and you'll learn the truth.

HAHA I got your attention didn't I. Sorry but I was very drunk and was sick and tired of reading through your useless "facts" in order to find information about what is accually happening over there. I know what caused this whole deal an I doubt anyone here doesn't.(except maybe you.) I can't understand why you continue to call you posts "facts" when you have already been proven wrong on several counts.




As for my spelling. Anyone who has half a brain knows that spelling does not reflect inteligence or the abilitly to express one's self.



Btw I guess my dad with his masters in history and 33 years as a history teacher (20 years of teaching me) was wrong when he told me exaclly what tstar and girth said. Forgive me but I believe he is quite abit more credible than you are.
 
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Right you are Slayer. Anybody who consults credible history sources will find that my posts and 'most' everyone else's posts in this thread are fully accurate.
 
slayer4u said:
HAHA I got your attention didn't I. Sorry but I was very drunk and was sick and tired of reading through your useless "facts" in order to find information about what is accually happening over there. I know what caused this whole deal an I doubt anyone here doesn't.(except maybe you.) I can't understand why you continue to call you posts "facts" when you have already been proven wrong on several counts.

As for my spelling. Anyone who has half a brain knows that spelling does not reflect inteligence or the abilitly to express one's self.

Btw I guess my dad with his masters in history and 33 years as a history teacher (20 years of teaching me) was wrong when he told me exaclly what tstar and girth said. Forgive me but I believe he is quite abit more credible than you are.

Really, numbnuts? What exactly have I been proven wrong about?

I said Israel has no legitimacy outside of its pre-1967 borders. Not a single country other than Israel, U.S., and Britain recognizes Israel claims to land outside of its pre-1967 borders.

Looks like I was right about that.

I said that over 65% of the Jews in Israel at the time of its founding weren't even from the Middle East, they were Europeans trying to get away from Germany. So we had indigenous Palestinians (oh and there WAS a country called Palestine prior to 1948, contrary to what YellowMP5 said, as my link to a scanned authentic 1947 map proved.) being displaced from their homes they had known for generations by outsiders with no legal claim to the land. YellowMP5 conceded this.

Looks like I was right about that.

I said Israel was guilty of many oppressive and brutal practices upon the people in the occupied territories. During the 18 years it occupied Lebanon and the 40+ years Israel has occupied the Palestinain people's lands, Israel has done NOTHING but destroy and lay waste to the infrastructure there. Regular invasions, bombings, missile targeting, baseless arrests, incarceration of men women & children without charges, torture, and other human rights violations have been rampant. The only reason Israeli prime ministers have not been charged with war crimes is because the U.S. makes every effort to block such actions. Israel has, in the last 3 days, blasted Palestine into the dark ages. Every public utility has been completely obliterated. 75% of Palestinians will be without electricity for AT LEAST 1 YEAR and without running water for AT LEAST 6-8 MONTHS.

I was right about that.

Israel has not "given back" any of the lands it seized during any wars, contrary to the falsities girth has set forth in his posts. Even as I type this, Israel is hinting strongly at invading and occupying Lebanon again on a full scale. Every country in the world except the U.S. has blasted Israel's enormously disproportionate military strikes as wrong and called on them to stop immediately.

Go get an education, junior.
 
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YellowMP5 said:
hey, 2 world wars in a span of 40 years have thought me everything i need to know about germany.

oh is that so (loser) do you judge your own folks the same way ? (genocide of the native americans, robbing their country, abduction of people from the african continent to make them slaves, denying them the most basic human rights until the late middle of the last century, dropping atomic bombs on civilians, putting your noses into every matter that is not yours, starting wars everywhere on this planet? spying on all the foreign economies to support your own...) does that tell you anything you need to know about the US or the US americans?

matrix said:
I said that over 65% of the Jews in Israel at the time of its founding weren't even from the Middle East, they were Europeans trying to get away from Germany. So we had indigenous Palestinians (oh and there WAS a country called Palestine prior to 1948, contrary to what tstar said, as my link to a scanned authentic 1947 map proved.) being displaced from their homes they had known for generations by outsiders with no legal claim to the land. Tstar conceded this.
lol, you've mistaken me for the guy above who knows everything about the germans.

ah btw: israel was founded 3years after WW2, so no, the jews were not running from the german war or the germans.

Is it me? Or did the magical voice on the interweb from Germany just have a masturbatory fantasy about millions of Jews dying? That's ripe.
although this doesn't really deserve an answer... i'd rather think it's not MY wishful fantasy, it's YOUR paranoia based on the actual reality of the state of israel. israel IS a pseudo state, planted into the area by force with no acceptance by its surrounding. such things have no chance to last.

and you make the same idiotic mistake 99% of all other people make. you mix up "israel" with "jewish".
 
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Matrix said:
Israel has, in the last 3 days, blasted Palestine into the dark ages. Every public utility has been completely obliterated. 75% of Palestinians will be without electricity for AT LEAST 1 YEAR and without running water for AT LEAST 6-8 MONTHS.

well, they should have thought about the consequences of their actions before they let the hezbollah come over and fire the rockets into israel. lebanese sat on their asses and did nothing to stop them. didn't call on UN to help, didn't call out to the international community. Now they are phreaking crying about their infrastructure being destroyed. Well, too ******* bad, should have used your head to think about how to make the world a better place rather than how many virgins them fuckers are going to do in heaven.
 
YellowMP5 said:
well, they should have thought about the consequences of their actions before they let the hezbollah come over and fire the rockets into israel. lebanese sat on their asses and did nothing to stop them. didn't call on UN to help, didn't call out to the international community. Now they are phreaking crying about their infrastructure being destroyed. Well, too ******* bad, should have used your head to think about how to make the world a better place rather than how many virgins them fuckers are going to do in heaven.
Exactly - that's why basically all leaders WORLD-WIDE (except for Iran and Syria, or course) are calling on the Lebanese govt to get their military and reign in the Hezbollah guerrillas. But they're not doing it, so Israel will reign them in themselves.

It all comes back to the question of "what do you expect Israel to do"? People like Matrix won't answer that question because he knows deep down there is NOTHING Israel can do aside from all Jews leaving the Middle East, and that flat out ain't gonna happen. Contrary to what he says they HAVE given back land and it does 0 good, so there is nothing left that they can do except defend themselves from terrorists, which is exactly what they're doing.
 
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TStar said:
ah btw: israel was founded 3years after WW2, so no, the jews were not running from the german war or the germans.
While that's 'technically' correct, it is misleading because MOST of the Jewish migration occurred after WWI. That's the whole reason the British divided up the old Ottoman Empire into Palestine and then a few years later divided Palestine up into 25% Jewish land and 75% Arab land (in land mass, not population - (for "Matrix" since he doesn't seem to comprehend that)).
 
So the burning question that needs to be answered by those against Isreal is:
What do you expect them to do?

We await your answer with baited breath.
 
your version
Matrix said:
Nope. Hmmmm...U.K., France, and Poland all got their land back after the Allies beat Germany, but they didn't take back ONE SQUARE MILE more than their pre-war boundaries.
that was sort of correct. Germany didn't gain anything after WWII however it was divided into four zones of occupation.Originally it was divided amongst the soviets, americans british and french. later the french,american,british sections joined together.

Poland along with finland lost land to the soviet union although poland was compensated by receiving most of Germany east of the Oder-Neisse line, including the industrial regions Silesia.


my source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
 
Donas64 said:
So the burning question that needs to be answered by those against Isreal is:
What do you expect them to do?

We await your answer with baited breath.

1) pull back all troops
2) give back all the land they've occupied
3) give an excuse to the palestinians

that's it. hard, but the only way to freedom.
 
And do you really think that if they do this, they will be left alone? Or will it just be seen as a sign of weakness and appeasement?
 

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