INSTALLED: Impressions of the new Medieval Motorsports DogBone Rear Motor Mount

Update, after throwing on some grease the mount slid right in to the bracket no problem, and I didnt have to use a hammer. After thinking about it, I like the idea of the bushing being a tight fit. Once its in there isnt any vertical play. Also the sleeve inside the bushing is shorter than the total width of the bushing. This allows for much more absorbtion of vibrations and noise (this is important to some but not for everyone) becasue the the rear mounting bracket is really only in contact with the bushing material instead of the inner sleeve and bushing together like the TRZ is setup.

Obviously this type of design has its pros and cons depending on which way you look at it. For those that want all out performance and dont mind the NVH of the TRZ setup than the Medieval is not for you. For those that want to tighten up the drivetrain but also want a little dampening than the Medieval is for you.

Honestly the whole copying of designs and smack talk back and forth between the two companies isnt necessary. The way I see it is that while both are very similar in design they really target different buyers.

Also the price difference is easily justified. The Medieval is priced where it is for a reason and the same goes for the TRZ. The TRZ is a higher quality piece than the Medieval. Higher quality cunstruction = higher cost, simple as that. Both perform well in their own right but there is always a simple explanation for these things.

I also wanted to note that I logged about 30 city miles today with the Medieval mount in place of the TRZ dogbone installed. I still have the TRZ tranny mount installed so the dogbone is all that has been changed. The difference was immidiately noticeable. The NVH is still present, just not as severe as with the TRZ. Engine movement is still controlled night an day better than the stock mount. Basically, aside from the NVH bing less the car feels exactly the same. Things may change as the mount breaks it and I will definitely report any chnages.
 
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and in regards to PG

im getting turned off by how some of the vendors or people who are in close relation to the vendors of PG act. its getting me to a point i will never buy anything from them

+1 I was going to say that also

But yeah this was by far harder to install than the 1st Gen Medieval mount.... I had the bushing problem also, even after spraying lithium grease on both sides of the mount, I had a hell of a time trying to get it lined up. But after all the headaches with that, I am happy that I have this mount over the 1st. After I took out the 1st Gen, I went back to the stock, so I got to feel the benefits all over again. The vibrations are perfect for me, more than stock but less than the 1st gen (which weren't that much either).

Too bad the bushing went in really hard because I marked it all up, it was a really nice looking piece!
 
haha, agreed. dag, that sucks yours is marked up. yeah im loving my medieval mm. its feeling like fully fuctioning inserts so-to-speak...its awesome so far

seems like the PG fanboys have been eating sour grapes ha
 
My guess is that somebody over at PG knows the guys from TRZ personally. To the best of my knowledge PG is the only place to get the TRZ mounts.

well that's not accurate. I know you can get it at least one other place called the rpm store.
 
Alright, there's two places you can pick them up...If you'll note I said "To the best of my knowledge."...

Don't get defensive. I am not targeting you at all.

I am trying to figure out why PG's name is getting drug through the mud in a thread about a medieval motor mount. TRZ was brought up and somehow that got equated to PG. How I just don't get it. TRZ manufactures their own s*** and you can buy the same mount in more than one place?

So let me re-phrase this question a bit.

What does PG have to do with this thread?
 
I just installed mine today. As someone else said, this is the perfect compromise between stock or the CS inserts and the TRZ poly as far as vibes are concerned. I've had all three. The TRZ poly had too many vibes for me for DD. The Midevil vibes are just a bit more than the inserts which are barely noticeable. This mount is great. Shifting feels just as solid as the TRZ did. This mount is a great deal for $50 shipped.

Tip for install... just put a bit of motor oil on the outside of each bushing and it'll slide in no problem.
 
Don't get defensive. I am not targeting you at all.

I am trying to figure out why PG's name is getting drug through the mud in a thread about a medieval motor mount. TRZ was brought up and somehow that got equated to PG. How I just don't get it. TRZ manufactures their own s*** and you can buy the same mount in more than one place?

So let me re-phrase this question a bit.

What does PG have to do with this thread?

I'm not sure...someone brought it up I guess. I've never had a problem with PG, I see no reason to bash them (they do have slow shipping but I always got my stuff).
 
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Just swapped out the rear mount tonight for the new dog bone. I had the Medieval 2pc design and I decided to swap out. I already put loc tite on the 2pc screws and never had any problems after that, but I was just nervous and wanted the piece of mind. I contacted both Dark Star and Medieval about swapping out. Dark Star replied back to my email the next day saying that I needed to contact Medieval and he would as well. Medieval is local to me, but they only ship or so I thought. So I email Medieval on Thursday about swapping out. I received a response in minutes stating they would swap out free of charge. I provided them with my shipping info and Friday morning Mike from Medieval hand delivered a new mount. I was in shock because I didn't even remove the 2pc design yet. He said he would pick it up when I do the swap. Today my buddy Glenn and I jacked up the speed and swapped it out.
I took the advice from others and put some oil on the bushing to lube it up so it would slide into place. Well it slid right in. I tighened everything up and took it for a test drive. No complaints and no more worries. A+ customer service and product.
 
For the sake of you guys who bought it, i hope they hold up for you. Medieval is havin a huge issue with their passenger side mounts failing badly. I know you are refering to the lower mount, but it uses the same hot pour polyurethane compound for the bushing. Keep you fingers crossed !
 
For the sake of you guys who bought it, i hope they hold up for you. Medieval is havin a huge issue with their passenger side mounts failing badly. I know you are refering to the lower mount, but it uses the same hot pour polyurethane compound for the bushing. Keep you fingers crossed !

give it a rest man, jesus
 
Give what a rest ? I'm just looking out for fellow members who may not be aware of all the failures of medievals polyurethane. Those threads are all on another forum. Not once did i mention a competitors product, just a warning. If you guys hear any clunk, bang.... You know where to look.
 
For the sake of you guys who bought it, i hope they hold up for you. Medieval is havin a huge issue with their passenger side mounts failing badly. I know you are refering to the lower mount, but it uses the same hot pour polyurethane compound for the bushing. Keep you fingers crossed !

give it a rest man, jesus

Give what a rest ? I'm just looking out for fellow members who may not be aware of all the failures of medievals polyurethane. Those threads are all on another forum. Not once did i mention a competitors product, just a warning. If you guys hear any clunk, bang.... You know where to look.

Yes this is an example of just looking out and giving a heads up. Nothing to get upset IMO
 

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