I relocated!!!!!

[smo0f]

update?

 

[vxfilmer1000]

No man I have been really busy with Work and i havn't had a chance to buy the new couplers and t-clamps, but as soon as i get them and put them on. I will give an update.

 

[msfamilia]

update?

See we are really trying to help a brother out here.......

Someone is more concern than filmer himself..... (headbang)

 

[vxfilmer1000]

See we are really trying to help a brother out here.......

Someone is more concern than filmer himself..... (headbang)

That is what the Mazda/msprotege.com Family is ABOUT (drinks)

 

[Matrix]

Hey I finally installed my Injen CAI (temporarily SRI) and hardpipes with MAF relocation today, and I couldn't believe the difference! Throttle response is much improved, shifts are so much better, and the engine runs much smoother. I removed the screen/mesh thing in the MAF, installed the Injen SRI, and put in a TurboXS Type-H BOV.

I highly recommend it!! (thumb)

 

[Matrix]

I drove my car last night and to work this morning, and I have to tell you guys the difference is like night and day! THIS is how the MSP should have been running in the first place. There's no more herky-jerky feeling under acceleration and boost surge is greatly reduced. The car is just running sooooo much better with much smoother power delivery. I was actually considering selling my MSP because I just didn't like the way it ran, particulary during shifting. After this install I have no plans to part with my car. It runs great and I highly recommend MAF relocation to everyone with an MSP.

 

[smo0f]

sweet, i am considering doing this. what is the purpose of removing the mesh from the maf? isnt it an air stabilizer?

 

[ZenProtege]

it takes a lot of the turbulance out of the airflow before it hits the sensor wires in the maf. I would leave it in there, I sure it makes the maf read much more accurately. IIRC, the mesh is glued in there anyways so getting it out would be pretty difficult. It's not like the silencer that DSM's have....

 

[FlyinMSP]

it takes a lot of the turbulance out of the airflow before it hits the sensor wires in the maf. I would leave it in there, I sure it makes the maf read much more accurately. IIRC, the mesh is glued in there anyways so getting it out would be pretty difficult. It's not like the silencer that DSM's have....

I got mine out easily. The thottle response feels better without the mesh. Mine has been out for 2 years now. I did put it back to double-check a year ago, and I still found the car better without it.

 

[smo0f]

cool, thanks

 

[tricky]

I got mine out easily. The thottle response feels better without the mesh. Mine has been out for 2 years now. I did put it back to double-check a year ago, and I still found the car better without it.

Is you MAF relocated as well?

I've been wondering who out there has relocated the MAF for an extended period of time, I'm talking at least 1-2 years, and to see if there have been any bad/negative effects. Anyone's MAF go to poop/fail/die??

 

[smo0f]

several people have had it over 2 years and had reported no problems or downsides. it sounds like it's definitely worth it

 

[tricky]

several people have had it over 2 years and had reported no problems or downsides. it sounds like it's definitely worth it

wow, that's kind of what I was thinking being as though no one has posted up with issues. A new MAF is over $200 so I just wanted to be sure the relocation can withstand the test of time. I'm still waying the option of relocating or running the dual BOV/BPV set up. thanks for the info

 

[smo0f]

well although a bov/bpv setup might be cheaper (somehow, if that's the case), relocating the maf closer to the TB should be better because you are getting the reading of the air right before it enters the TB which yields better afrs and a faster throttle response due to the fact that there is little reaction time needed to dump fuel as per the amount of air entering. whereas with the stock setup, you are measuring air right at the intake, and the ecu reacts quickly to dump fuel but there's a bit of a delay until the air that was read reaches the combustion area to mix with the fuel that was released for that amount of air. i hope that made sense, it seems logical to me.

 

[FlyinMSP]

Is you MAF relocated as well?

No, it isn't

 

[FlyinMSP]

wow, that's kind of what I was thinking being as though no one has posted up with issues. A new MAF is over $200 so I just wanted to be sure the relocation can withstand the test of time. I'm still waying the option of relocating or running the dual BOV/BPV set up. thanks for the info

You can always search for a used MAF (all the 2 L are the same) at a scrapyard, just for peace of mind...

 

[Matrix]

well although a bov/bpv setup might be cheaper (somehow, if that's the case), relocating the maf closer to the TB should be better because you are getting the reading of the air right before it enters the TB which yields better afrs and a faster throttle response due to the fact that there is little reaction time needed to dump fuel as per the amount of air entering. whereas with the stock setup, you are measuring air right at the intake, and the ecu reacts quickly to dump fuel but there's a bit of a delay until the air that was read reaches the combustion area to mix with the fuel that was released for that amount of air. i hope that made sense, it seems logical to me.

Also see post #31 in this thread. (thumb)

 

[Matrix]

it takes a lot of the turbulance out of the airflow before it hits the sensor wires in the maf. I would leave it in there, I sure it makes the maf read much more accurately. IIRC, the mesh is glued in there anyways so getting it out would be pretty difficult. It's not like the silencer that DSM's have....

Mine came out pretty easily. I just poked it with a screwdriver and it popped right out.

I think most air stabilizers are worthless. Just like that bogus product called "The Tornado" which the makers claim will increase horsepower by smoothing out the airflow. This doesn't make any difference, as the airflow in the intake manifold will be the same whether you "stabilize" it before the throttle body or not. It just becomes another restriction to airflow that I can do without. Besides, the car is running great.

 

[smo0f]

Also see post #31 in this thread. (thumb)

Actually, you say that air gets recirculated or blown off whether you have a bov or bpv before it reaches the throttle body. It doesn't. The air that's recirc'd or blown off is air that has hit the TB when it shut and flows back. The reason why there's hesistation/stumbling is because of the turbulence caused by this that affects the next 'batch' of air that was read by the MAF as it hits the air exiting. Something like that. At least that's what makes sense to me.

 

[nvmsp]

So say i wanted to relocate the MAF with my HiBoost pipes. What would I need to do in order to make everything work without running into issues like stuff not fitting right etc. ???