I hate this flash so far!!!!
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Man all I needed to see was the before and after flash DYNO runs....the unflashed is exactly what I feel. Im running 9-10 psi, and I have no doubt this flash is going to make the car great. Might have to turn down the boost a bit, but to get all that low-mid range torque back is going to be like getting a new car.
Cant run 12 psi out here due to the crappy gas in Cali.
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Cant run 12 psi out here due to the crappy gas in Cali.
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Good to see your a judgemental Dickhead who talks out his ass.Pkay said:
Look shitstick you have ZERO experience with this car at more than stock boost so **** you and the MSP your rode in on.
The car is not broken I had to drive it 52 miles home it just feels different. I know the difference between a ****** motor and a drivability change. I've blown enough of them up to tell
He was checking out the gauge first off when he pulled it out and when he was sitting in it. Personally I think he checked the boost first from what I can tell and then drove it stock and came back I saw him under the hood bending over and he drove it again then he came back and started the flash before he drove it 2 more times.
So like I said he was a smart guy just indifferent to my minimal mods.
It was a really big shop so he was too far back for me to tell exactly what he was doing and I know for sure he changed it because when I got home the lock nut and srew were loose and it might explain why I was getting some goofy boost jump.
I think I just need some time to adjust to the car and tune it a bit for the new PCM code. I just think he was a tech who had some sense and some turbo experience. His name was on the only Mazda Master Tech plaque in the shop and there was some MazdaSpeed lit by his awards.
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That is interesting. From your description it does sound like he messed with your boost a little. I guess there's not much you can do but check your hoses and everything and then slowly start upping the boost. You probably should do it real gradual though since you're breaking new ground here - like maybe turn it up 1 psi and drive for a week, then another, then another. I doubt it will do any good to take it back to the dealer if you say the power band seems smooth. Good luck.
yashooa said:
excuse me you s*** talking ******* noob......
If you are such the god damn expert on the car why didn't you come to the conclusion that you don't need the flash?
Ridden in numerous times and driven numerous times a 14 PSI MSP.... helped install both MBC and FPR on that car..... also helping try and work on making a TT conversion on his car.... waiting on my MBC..... in the meantime I'll drive my RX7 which makes our car look like a bigwheel tricycle. Obviously i have no experience with anything over stock boost on the MSP or over stock boost on any car what-so-ever
Before you start acting like your car was some s*** stomping beast at 12PSI remember 12PSI on this turbo is like 6 psi on another turbo...... you're not talking about mach ******* one force here jackass. Don't act like you're some all knowing badass because you had an MBC and that the rest of us are oblivious as to the power your car once had. My RX7 is in need of an entire engine rebuild...... the compression sucks ass..... the second turbo is leaking..... and we have the boost edged down a lot.... its running at a measly 10psi right now my rx7's kick makes my friends 14psi s*** hot MSP look lame.
You're bitching because you arent getting the "punch" you did before yet you are running 4 PSI less than you did before. Before you start going around and implying this flash is complete s***, how about you bump your PSI up and see if maybe just maybe 12PSI feels more like 12PSI
Seriously dude.... chill the **** out....... there are more things to this car than buying an MBC and expecting it to be the fastest car known to man. If you want to make your car a seriously powerfull car you'll need to get a PowerFC or an ECU upgrade later on anywho.
Drink a ******* beer, pop a ******* vallium, watch some conan obrien, and in the morning go up your boost to 9.5psi rang and give it a run.
You live in southern tarrant county? Some bad storms running through..... seriously doubt you've got to run it too much to get a great feel for it anywho. Tomorrow if it dries up head out to the granbury area highways and let loose.
No need to be acting like i have no clue what I'm talking about or that i'm somehow against you because you're not happy with the flash. You'll be happy with the car in the end I'm sure and you'll figure things out. If anything you can swap ECU's with a canadian and probably make $100 or so.
Yes it is silky smooth. Runs perfectly just not the same whoosh bam, whoosh bam I liked. I never said it ran poorly just not like the wee little beasty it was.girth said:
I'll just have to give its teeth back. But perhaps it bites just as hard now just a slower sink into the flesh than a sudden sharp bite.
Maybe it is actually accelerating hard now before the boost hits where as before it was vrrr-BAMMMM, vrr-BAMMMM.
Now it is vrrrrOOOOOMMMM, vrrrrOOOOMMM.
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girth said:
I was thinking he might have kept it up at 12 psi.... never touched it at all..... and maybe because of that when the guy test drove it he ran it at 12psi (which is rumored ot be too powerfull) and maybe messed something minor up (popped a hose off a little)
OR
would changing the ECU effect the PSI setting on the car to begin with if you're running an MBC? I know on our RX7 when we got our ECU reprogrammed by Greddy, we shipped the ECU off.... put it back in..... and our car was running 2 1/2 PSI lower (and we touched nothing). We simply turned it up a little and it was fine.
yashooa said:
what kind of intake do you have on it?
i put mine back to stock this morning..... when i first got it back it sounded a bit meaner with the stock air box (than it did originally) but when I put my Injen CAI back on this evening it sounded a little less meaner but still slightly angry.
Pkay said:excuse me you s*** talking ******* noob......
If you are such the god damn expert on the car why didn't you come to the conclusion that you don't need the flash?
Ridden in numerous times and driven numerous times a 14 PSI MSP.... helped install both MBC and FPR on that car..... also helping try and work on making a TT conversion on his car.... waiting on my MBC..... in the meantime I'll drive my RX7 which makes our car look like a bigwheel tricycle. Obviously i have no experience with anything over stock boost on the MSP or over stock boost on any car what-so-ever
Before you start acting like your car was some s*** stomping beast at 12PSI remember 12PSI on this turbo is like 6 psi on another turbo...... you're not talking about mach ******* one force here jackass. Don't act like you're some all knowing badass because you had an MBC and that the rest of us are oblivious as to the power your car once had. My RX7 is in need of an entire engine rebuild...... the compression sucks ass..... the second turbo is leaking..... and we have the boost edged down a lot.... its running at a measly 10psi right now my rx7's kick makes my friends 14psi s*** hot MSP look lame.
You're bitching because you arent getting the "punch" you did before yet you are running 4 PSI less than you did before. Before you start going around and implying this flash is complete s***, how about you bump your PSI up and see if maybe just maybe 12PSI feels more like 12PSI
Seriously dude.... chill the **** out....... there are more things to this car than buying an MBC and expecting it to be the fastest car known to man. If you want to make your car a seriously powerfull car you'll need to get a PowerFC or an ECU upgrade later on anywho.
Drink a ******* beer, pop a ******* vallium, watch some conan obrien, and in the morning go up your boost to 9.5psi rang and give it a run.
You live in southern tarrant county? Some bad storms running through..... seriously doubt you've got to run it too much to get a great feel for it anywho. Tomorrow if it dries up head out to the granbury area highways and let loose.
No need to be acting like i have no clue what I'm talking about or that i'm somehow against you because you're not happy with the flash. You'll be happy with the car in the end I'm sure and you'll figure things out. If anything you can swap ECU's with a canadian and probably make $100 or so.
Say there tough guy why don't you and your sore coochie go see Hugh Heffner I hear he wants to take some pictures.
Please beotch I never said the "FLASH WAS COMPLETE s***" as you put it. I just don't care for it as of yet. So lube that vagina hole of yours, get your D-cells out and go have a soak.
Sorry to hear you RX7 is such a beater. That is ineed a shame.
And I live way way South of Tarranty county but I did have a lot of rain.
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Pkay said:
Yeah I thought the hose thing to so I checked them and that is what lead me to the MBC screw being further out and the lock nut was loose.
I also was thinking (as you did) that the flash somehow affected the boost.
I will find out tomorrow.
yashooa said:
lol @ beater My Rx7 could tow a U-Haul filled with concrete and still have a full second on your car running 15PSI...... you're a bit out of your league to be talking s***.
See those of use who actually put time and energy into cars upgrade cars correctly instead of just buying an MBC and thinking we're ready to be in Fast and the Furious 3.
The rx7 is on its first engine and nearing 100,000 miles. The engine rebuild is a preventative measure..... and the "bad compression" I speak of is only because we hold it to such high standards (as it should be held).
But hey since your balls are to the floor right now, you'll be happy to know I was born and raised in DFW..... and what's even better is our engine rebuild is going on at Gotham Racing in Haltom City (they be rx7 pimps).
You should hit me up.... we can have a few beers and I can show you a thing or three.
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Sorry. (upyours) dont mean to be a dick, but Mazda fixed what needed to be fixed. It is running how it should be, at time of sale. Sorry you cant runt the "look at me civic driver, rice boy, Im a ricer too, I boost 12 psi" bulls***.
You wanna be a man, and tune, learn ******* how, and buy a full stand alone.
NO FACTORY CAR CAN RUN MAD BOOST WITHJOUT FULL ENGINE MANAGEMENT. LEARN THIS WELL, FUCKTARDS. I DONT CARE WHO SAYS WHAT, ITS THE TRUTH, AND WELL DOCUMENTED.
(upyours)
You wanna be a man, and tune, learn ******* how, and buy a full stand alone.
NO FACTORY CAR CAN RUN MAD BOOST WITHJOUT FULL ENGINE MANAGEMENT. LEARN THIS WELL, FUCKTARDS. I DONT CARE WHO SAYS WHAT, ITS THE TRUTH, AND WELL DOCUMENTED.
(upyours)
boostisgood said:
Ah at best it was a half ass fix and I hardly see what wanting a car to run well has to do with Civics or ricers et al.
You are just pissed that not all of us a falling all over you begging to buy you one night with a Vegas hooker.
Most of the time I am running 60MPH and averaging 36 MPG so I hardly fall into the "Look at me category" maybe if I had bought an Orange car then I would fit into that demographic.
And what does being a "man" have to do with tuning?
Spicy looks like your s*** outta luck Home boy here say's it takes a "man" to tune.
It looks as if you suffer from both arrogance and assholism please consult a priest and shrink maybe together they can exorcise the spirit of "fuckhead" clean out of ya.
YellowMSP4KP
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Damn...you guys are hardcore.
DiscreetSpeed
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hey yash haha try running one time with 12psi, and tell me if you think there is a difference between flash and no flash...hehe youll love it man.
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