How To: Ebay FMIC

here we go, not great pic because it was dark and the phone doesn't do great with dark shots, but not bad, plenty of room on top and bottom, so ya, 14" definitely wouldn't work, but 13 probably would, I still have an inch or so under them+ the Mishimoto fan is slightly shorter than the stock fan
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I think u were able to fit 2 slim fans since u have a mishimoto radiator. I think 2 12" fans on a stock radiator might poke out on the sides.Or are both radiators the same size in width?If they are ,then I should have went with 2 12" fans instead
 
The radiator he's running is the p5 size hence the extra room. 12" will run over the edges of ours some but they should cover enough surface area that should be beyer. Honestly running the stock fans and shrouds seems the most beneficial.
 
Gotcha. I understand. Evilmonkey are u going to wire both fans to turn on at the same time for the radiator?
 
I'm going to reinstall the stock fans to work like they did in stock form. I'm also going to add some redline water wetter and see how it works from there. I also have a Weapon R coolant overflow can coming.

My buddy that was running a Perrin FMIC(which is more than twice the size of ours) ran his stock fans, no SMIC and never had an issue with overheating or the AC not performing, and he lives in GA so just as hot as down here.

We shall see.

If that doesnt work then I have to shelf the project for now. I'll reinstall the stock SMIC and just run hard pipes with my leftover piping and call it a day. I need to have the car up and running normal as DDing the S2000 is a PITA because it is on coilovers.

Gotcha. I understand. Evilmonkey are u going to wire both fans to turn on at the same time for the radiator?
 
I love s2000's. Would using a single 12" slim fan on the radiator and the stock ac fan work out for you? instead of 2 10" slim fans?
 
I'm sure it might, but I honestly dont care to invest any more money and time in waiting. I'm sure I can get the stock fans to fit.

I love my S2000 too, but its a rough ride since putting coilovers on it, even on their softest setting lol.
I love s2000's. Would using a single 12" slim fan on the radiator and the stock ac fan work out for you? instead of 2 10" slim fans?
 
I hope you didn't buy d2 suspension. If so,I hate those lol. I'm a Honda guy myself. Have been for yearsssss. But got tired of them. I would love a s2k but theft is crazy here in the east.I wish I lived in the south(Mississippi,lousiana,etc) I went out to those states a couple of months back and had a great time and also realized that I could own a type r or whatever car I want without anyone wanting to steal it.
 
lol no, they're megan street coilovers with 14kg spring rates all around....got them for free so I cant complain too much...
I hope you didn't buy d2 suspension. If so,I hate those lol. I'm a Honda guy myself. Have been for yearsssss. But got tired of them. I would love a s2k but theft is crazy here in the east.I wish I lived in the south(Mississippi,lousiana,etc) I went out to those states a couple of months back and had a great time and also realized that I could own a type r or whatever car I want without anyone wanting to steal it.
 
My dad is buying a gray AP2 in a few months as a track car. I cant wait.

Anyways I got my intake completed and new filter on.
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And the MC clearance with a straight 2.5" coupler and a cut 180 pipe.
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I found some SU SMIC delete brackets that I want to invest in to help get cooler air to the filter. Right now its getting hot air blowing from the fan. I can't wait for the weather to cool down to see how the car runs. Then I can get it tuned and run more than 9lbs finally.
 
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I think u were able to fit 2 slim fans since u have a mishimoto radiator. I think 2 12" fans on a stock radiator might poke out on the sides.Or are both radiators the same size in width?If they are ,then I should have went with 2 12" fans instead
it does poke out, the 2 slim fans might not as much as the stock one, but you could either just put the stock one in on the driver side, since it has the shroud it might be better, or just use a 12" fan on the A/C side, and a 10" one on the driver/rad side and it shouldn't stick out, doesn't really matter too much, I just figure size you already bought the fans, you could take either route, but I guess cheapest way would be to stick the stock one back on the driver side, that thing moves some good air, about as much as the 12" ones do, but like I said, without a shroud, and with that little gap from where the SMIC use to be, or maybe still is depending on your setup, it might be good to have it there.
The radiator he's running is the p5 size hence the extra room. 12" will run over the edges of ours some but they should cover enough surface area that should be beyer. Honestly running the stock fans and shrouds seems the most beneficial.

ya, I've always had the 12" slim fan on the A/C side, and it was great, couldn't fit the stock one in there when I tried so had to order one.. but I am kicking myself now for not actually taking pics of my fmic install because there were a lot of times where I could have used them for other people and references.. but anyways this is the best pic I have of the stock fan set up originally before my new rad. where I was using the stock fan on the hot side, worked great then.. and with that little gap there, I didn't really notice any difference in the way it was able to pull heat from the radiator, I figure the air that it is pulling over the radiator is the same as before because its still the air that is coming through the radiator, it's not like the air in front of the radiator is all of a sudden moving over to where the gap is, at least not really anything noticeable.. hard to explain but it shouldn't make much of a difference if there is a gap,

I just really didn't like the look of having the crappy stock smic in there, and the gap allowed more air to come in a cool the rest of the engine bay as well
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Taking out the SMIC to get cold air to the intake is also going to do VERY little in comparison to what putting in a FMIC has done for you. From an "every little bit helps" standpoint, sure. But from an absolute output standpoint... its marginal, if not immeasurable.
 
Taking out the SMIC to get cold air to the intake is also going to do VERY little in comparison to what putting in a FMIC has done for you. From an "every little bit helps" standpoint, sure. But from an absolute output standpoint... its marginal, if not immeasurable.

Has anyone tested a SRI vs. a CAI? I mean ACTUALLY tested. I can't imagine it would do THAT much. Unless you had some wondrous CAI.
 
(werd) intake air gets heated up by the damn turbo so a slightly cooler charge would make a marginal, if any, difference on final air temp
you're much better off spending your energy on the intercooler than worrying about the temp of the intake.
 
I wish i had an air temp gauge hooked into the intake to test it. The car runs noticeably better when it is cooler out vs the heat of the day. Not NEARLY as noticeable as with the stock SMIC but the car runs less boost. Cooler going in is going to be cooler going out.
 
Taking out the SMIC to get cold air to the intake is also going to do VERY little in comparison to what putting in a FMIC has done for you. From an "every little bit helps" standpoint, sure. But from an absolute output standpoint... its marginal, if not immeasurable.
I didn't mean to the intake, I have a cai, so I get the air from the fender, which I have a little scoop dremmelled out for cold air, I just meant overall cooling the engine bay down a little helps overall, nothing noticable, but compared to something like the stock hood and the CF hood with vents in there like mine (I know the little smic hole removed isn't even close to having vents in the hood, but I'm just making a connection) then with my vents open, it is a HUGE difference in the overall engine bay temps.. letting the heat escape, or cooler air come in, doesn't make a huge difference on the dyno, but you have to think that keeping your engine bay cooler helps overall, thats all I was getting at
Has anyone tested a SRI vs. a CAI? I mean ACTUALLY tested. I can't imagine it would do THAT much. Unless you had some wondrous CAI.

and ya, the car does run much better I think when it's cooler out and especially with my Cai I would think, I had a sri in there when I first got the car, but I haven't really done any back to back testing of it, but anyways my point is that if you have a cai with a little hole cut out that acts as a scoop, so that cold air actually does come into the cai, then I think it has made a huge difference, I've had cool nights when the hot pipe is actually just warm, not even anywhere close to hot, and the cold pipe therefore is actually cold..it was crazy.

granted I spent a bunch of times popping the hood after driving it to check both pipes just because I was curious, and on cooler nights the cai definitely makes quite a bit of difference I think, more so when you have a stock hood on there.. but I will say that on warm days or hot days, the cai vs the sri really doesn't matter, because the temp difference sometimes between the air coming into the sri and the cai is very minimal, but yes, the intercooler obviously makes the main difference, but it takes energy to heat up cooler air, as well as cool it back down, so really cooler air from a cai (however minimal it is) is "sucking" heat from the turbo, even though the turbo gets hot enough where it really doesn't make anywhere close to a noticeable difference, expect on cooler nights..

so ya the thing about that little smic being there or not really is nothing, I just figured I prefer it not there based on looks and rationalizing it for myself haha
 
This is kicking my ass right now... Pretty much because I'm trying to do it without another 90*. I got a 90 and a 45 with the kit instead of two 90s. Which is okay, but I still need another 90... Damn it!!!
 

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