How TO: CEL/MIL Eliminator!

After several unsuccessful attempts with the MIL fix from Apex with my header I finally gave up and went with the spark plug anti-foulers (I think that's what they're called). Been a couple thousand miles now without a CEL and no MIL fix. Wish I had gone with this in the first place so I wouldn't have had to cut my O2 sensor wires.
 
Chas, Ill be using your instructions in about a week or 2. OBX header! Here I come!
 
DiS said:
Chas, Ill be using your instructions in about a week or 2. OBX header! Here I come!
Dude..it should be cake. If you know how to solder. Your golden. I have used this to pass inspection!

Chas
 
acidbbg said:
Dude..it should be cake. If you know how to solder. Your golden. I have used this to pass inspection!

Chas
hah, thats my intention also! NJ inspection blows! I hope im gonna receive my wireless soldering iron before the header...if not then Ill use the regular one, hehe. If not Ill let you do it (peep)
 
99mx5 said:
CEL came back on after a while :(
using O2 sim now. Oh well, at least it was worth a try.

Me too, Cel came back on after a few days of the dp. I got my emissions a few days before emissions and in VA it's good for two years so I'll be straight for a while.
 
Shane-O said:
Me too, Cel came back on after a few days of the dp. I got my emissions a few days before emissions and in VA it's good for two years so I'll be straight for a while.
you mean after you did this CEL eliminator mod, you still had the CEL coming back on? Thats weird, did you get the code out of the ECU?
 
Not sure why some people had problems..and others were golden?

But i know of atleast 2other people that i helped do this..and they had no problems...and have been cel free!

My guess is something to do with the soldering/parts.
 
When my cel comes on I just reset the ECU and it doesnt come on for another 500 miles. I havent use any type of cel eliminator either
 
can someone please elaborate on the other way to do this without citting the wires, using the ant-fouler thing? Blaxer, do u have pics at all? Id prefer not to cut my wires but i will if needed. im getting the obx header off the group buy. Will the spark plug ant-fouler work? i dunno even know where or how this thing would work..im a total newbie to this idea. thanks for any help people!
 
ZackyFarms said:
can someone please elaborate on the other way to do this without citting the wires, using the ant-fouler thing? Blaxer, do u have pics at all? Id prefer not to cut my wires but i will if needed. im getting the obx header off the group buy. Will the spark plug ant-fouler work? i dunno even know where or how this thing would work..im a total newbie to this idea. thanks for any help people!

It wont. Simply moving your 02 sensor out of the pipe a little is going to do nothing for eliminating a CEL. That trick is to free up the flow of your exhaust by having the 02 sensor not sticking into the path of the airflow. I have antifoulers on both of my 02 sensors. My 02 sensors are completely out of the flow, back in their own little "pocket".
If antifoulers stopped CEL's then I would not have one would I?
 
trbomp5 said:
It wont. Simply moving your 02 sensor out of the pipe a little is going to do nothing for eliminating a CEL. That trick is to free up the flow of your exhaust by having the 02 sensor not sticking into the path of the airflow. I have antifoulers on both of my 02 sensors. My 02 sensors are completely out of the flow, back in their own little "pocket".
If antifoulers stopped CEL's then I would not have one would I?

Based off personal experience, it does work actually. I had to go this route when I was unable to get the MIL fix to work for me.
 
blaxer said:
Based off personal experience, it does work actually. I had to go this route when I was unable to get the MIL fix to work for me.

I guess I dont see how in the world moving your 02 sensor out of the exhaust flow slightly, is going to "trick" it into thinking that all of a sudden the cat is back and the exhaust is all nice and clean now? Its not going to send back the correct milliamps that is made when it is heated up and "sensing" the air / fuel mixture that is unburnt in the exhaust. But if it worked for you, than more power to ya.
There are always unexplained miracles in life. This may be one. Another is that fact that anyone would buy anything made by GM:)
 
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Yeah, I wish I understood why it is working for me, but I don't. The MIL fix is easy enough to understand why it works, but this I don't know.

Oddly enough, my other vehicle is a GM :)

Edit: Ok just checked the NASIOC board and found some relevant information. The O2 sensor voltage output is directly proportional to the temperature of the filament. By using the anti foulers you effectively remove the filament from the hot exhaust gas flow lowering the filament temperature. When the temperature is reduced the voltage output of the O2 sensor is reduced, simulating the output of the O2 sensor in the exhaust path, with the cat installed.

Here's a link to the thread:
Non-Permanent Mechanical CEL Fix
 
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Ok! Finally got my header installed today, and on the way installed the CEL fix, thanks Chas!!! Although, seems like my gas goes away pretty quick!!! Yes I did reset the ECU. I hope my ECU will learn QUICKLY otherwise I will hate myself to fill up every 3 days (as Im driving an hour to my job). Well, Ill see what happens in 2-3 gas tanks.
 
DiS said:
Ok! Finally got my header installed today, and on the way installed the CEL fix, thanks Chas!!! Although, seems like my gas goes away pretty quick!!! Yes I did reset the ECU. I hope my ECU will learn QUICKLY otherwise I will hate myself to fill up every 3 days (as Im driving an hour to my job). Well, Ill see what happens in 2-3 gas tanks.
Congrats(rockon)

The i/h/e does tend to waste more gas. But so is the price for higher hp out of these engines.

Chas
 
acidbbg said:
Congrats(rockon)

The i/h/e does tend to waste more gas. But so is the price for higher hp out of these engines.

Chas

NO CHAS!! You just spoiled everything!!!!! (rofl) You have to say that gas milage will be increased! (rofl)

Man, thats bs, I saw my 1st quarter of tank go in freaking 3 hours, not even gunning it all the time.
 
DiS said:
NO CHAS!! You just spoiled everything!!!!! (rofl) You have to say that gas milage will be increased! (rofl)

Man, thats bs, I saw my 1st quarter of tank go in freaking 3 hours, not even gunning it all the time.
Yeah..i know all about it..i had my i/h/e for about 2 months..and the power was def there..but the gas mileage blew.

-Chas
 

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