Hehe and you guys thought we were done...

[jeffmsp]

why would you use a SMIC and a water to air?

umm you quoted the answer

then SMIC owners would not need to look into a new FMIC setup if they eventually want to run higher boost than a smic can take.

but apparently there would be too much presure drop to work well.

 

[kazson]

air to air k thx bye !

 

[EvilMSP]

I saw a kit or two with water coolers and hey seem cool, but I wouldn't want all that weight.

 

[pluto316]

If I was making a drag car I would say air to water. Sadly I do not believe the MSP to be a drag strip terror. I say air to air.

 

[msp35]

Air 2 Air.

Looks like I know where some more of the tax refund is going

 

[MSPguy]

If I was making a drag car I would say air to water. Sadly I do not believe the MSP to be a drag strip terror. I say air to air.

i would have to agree.

 

[_Sloteg_]

I say that you should make both john!

A nicely priced Air & Air and a air>water Intercooler for the people that want that.

 

[pluto316]

Honestly my money is going twards the Perrin FMIC. I can't replicate those bends at home (ALL ONCE PIECE PIPES? AWESOME!). Can you compete with that setup? The only way you could sway me is if you made a FMIC + intake deal or something along those lines.

 

[spacemonkey]

His harpipe kit were one piece...it was very nice! Except the BOV was positioned weird...

DSMconvert stuff has always been way cheaper then its competators so I dont think matching it Perrin is even an option. I dont think hes using aluminum or the price would be high.

I would say a nice SMIC to match your Hardpipe kit (best option for fairly stock turbo). And maybe a trade in or upgrade program for a FMIC. Meaning trade in our old pipes for a FMIC. And then you can probally sell the returned pipes for a fraction of the price. Just a suggestion. Im sure for stock set up peopel will buy a SMIC and the future they might consider a FMIC with a bigger turbo.

 

[Turbo MP3]

air-water-air would be interesting although i don't have a MSP. I believe it could be the best of both worlds, but i could be totally wrong (shrug)

 

[pluto316]

His harpipe kit were one piece...it was very nice! Except the BOV was positioned weird...

DSMconvert stuff has always been way cheaper then its competators so I dont think matching it Perrin is even an option. I dont think hes using aluminum or the price would be high.

I would say a nice SMIC to match your Hardpipe kit (best option for fairly stock turbo). And maybe a trade in or upgrade program for a FMIC. Meaning trade in our old pipes for a FMIC. And then you can probally sell the returned pipes for a fraction of the price. Just a suggestion. Im sure for stock set up peopel will buy a SMIC and the future they might consider a FMIC with a bigger turbo.

That being said, I currently think the DSMconvert hard pipe kit is the one to get.

 

[TheJohnny]

I want to see the Air/Water setup personally. Tax return is coming. It's either a paint job or something big. I was going all stock, but I think I may just go crazy and go with some type of SMIC or FMIC, 3" dp, cat back exhaust.

 

[_Sloteg_]

So when are we going to get the ball rolling on this john?


*Bump*

 

[Dr.Sound]

air-2-air.
i think a2a will bring more people, especially if it is priced as competitively as your hard pipes.
but a2w would be very interesting to see.

 

[jeffmsp]

if you could make the air to water IC for half the price of a fmic then people would buy them i thinks. unless you have a built motor fmic is overkill. btw how reliable are water to air ICs? what kind of life does the pump have?

 

[peepsalot]

I haven't seen an air to water setup up close. How well do they flow? Is pressure drop higher on these as compared to an air to air? So I'm guessing a small second radiator would go where the stock smic is?
I think the idea is very cool and I would be interested in buying one if these are made, but a little voice in my head is whining that extra complexity is prone to extra failure.

 

[wicked]

seeing how there is a bunch of A-A FMIC's allready,don't you think it's time for something new?


A-W would be very usefull to a lot of people,and you would be the only ones producing it in a kit.

 

[EvilMSP]

Yeah actually I take back my vote. I think a A-W system would be unique and interesting. I recently saw a show that had a A-W system.....for some huge hot rod for jay leno i think and it looked pretty cool. They seem like they are smaller in some ways and of course add more weight but the weight upfront is only going to help with traction, and I know I need more of it heh.

 

[MSP#735]

doesnt matter either way to me - i already have my upgraded SMIC - oh yea, and i LOVE IT!

 

[DSMConvert]

FOr all of you that are wondering how it works and such here is the site of the company that will be building them for us...notice what they're retail prices are and then notice what we're getting them to you guys for....you're going to look at the section called barrel intercoolers...

http://www.pwr-performance.com/intercooler.htm