Hehe and you guys thought we were done...
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not to take any business away from DSM, but if you want an AIR to AIR fmic then why haven't you bought one of the many available ones yet? I really think the air-water would do well, especially considereing no one else makes one. and in all honesty they actually work better tan air-air if made correctly
DSMConvert
AWD...say Bye Bye
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- Titanium MS6
We still haven't made a final decision yet. I just posted the link up so that everyone could get more info on exactly what kind of A to W we are going to sell...a lot of people were thinking of the Box type ice setup that old school draggers use. PWR's setup constantly circulates cool water to reduce intake temps even further, so no need to add ice or swap out for colder water.
Velocifero
Wham Bam thank you Ma'am
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- VRM MS6, Sunlight Silver MSP
subscribing, interested in the A2W
The more I think about it, the more I like the air to water idea. I'm not sure exactly how it would be mounted and all, but it seems like not much intake piping would be necessary, in which case I would imagine it would increase repsonsiveness, since less volume of air needs to be pressurized, if that makes any sense.
air to air is more practical for the people on this forum. Air to Water is a pretty "hardcore" setup that requires alot more stuff than people probably realize. Plus in the summer, you end up with damn near boiling water you have to add ice to all the time to keep cool.
Go with a nice 24x6x2.5 or so sized core, and with your prices, you will sell a ton.
Go with a nice 24x6x2.5 or so sized core, and with your prices, you will sell a ton.
DSMConvert
AWD...say Bye Bye
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kyrace you're complete wrong, please view the link...the pwr has a front "radiator' and pump that circulates the water to keep it cool, it is completely different from teh old style box water coolers....
it has it's own radiator, a completely separate cooling system, the two coolants do not contact each other. The engine coolant is kept at about 200F or something due to the thermostat. This is close to the optimal operating temp of an engine. The A2W intercooler on the other hand is not going to have a thermostat, as you wan't the coolant as cold as possible at all times. The coolant for the intercooler will be much closer to ambient air temps.
Cool sounds like a neat idea espically since our SMIC is so small to begin with and space is very limited so i think the A2W would be a very cool project.
Other details like water/coolant pump. what is going to power that and how much of the pipe has to be reworked.
Other details like water/coolant pump. what is going to power that and how much of the pipe has to be reworked.
TheJohnny said:
You're also set to explode your little A2W cooling system if it doesn't have any pressure release. My friends and I used to make dry ice bombs by putting a couple pieces in a 2-liter bottle that is about 1/4 full of water. Stand way back and cover your ears, it is loud as all hell. Good times.
DSMConvert said:
I read the link, im just stating the fact that for most part and air/water ic is technical overkill for most of the forum members who want a cheap effective bolt on piece. Air/Water IC's require more maintenance and upkeep thana bolt in on and forget it Air/Air Front Mount.
I know the benefits of air/water, and how effective they can be, but how many cars do you know with them driving around on the streets? Not many, and theres a pretty good reason for it, since it is harder to install, maintain and while the gains are good, for the average daily driven car, you dont need it.
Yes, there are a handful of people who would really love an air/water kit for the MSP, hell its cool that you guys can make them, but for the most part 98% of people just need a front mounted air/air intercooler.
BinaryRotary
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- 03 MSP, 85 RX-7 GS, 90 RX-7 TII
All I've got to say is, the Top Mount water to air intercooler on my Celica Alltrac sucked balls.
