Here's the thing, I haven't really been a jerk at all. As per usual after I call someone's comments into question the usually retort with childish comments instead of facts or real reasons. Do you know that since 2000 the Neon was changed? Probably not, as you are stuck with a "I am better than you" mentality. Of course that is if they actually reply at all. Just as you are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine. I am on this board because I like the MSP and have an open mind when it comes to cars. I have NEVER started a thread or arguement with trashing others or their choice of car, my ego isn't that fragile, sorry. And look, it is starting with the SpecV thread already too.