GI on budget turbo kit

[Ja7Red]

The Budget kit does NOT come with a FMIC or engine management.Retail on the budget kit is $1900.

We are going to offer a FMIC and an FMU/Voltage clamp for the budget kit as well. Retail for the Budget kit with FMIC and FMU/Clamp is $3400.

This is a great deal. Would it be dangerous at all to run the budget kit w/ out the intercooler and on stock internals? Will you add this to your website when it is in production and will you offer the FMIC and FMU/Clamp as an upgrade so it can be purchased seperate later?

 

[changedman]

This is a great deal. Would it be dangerous at all to run the budget kit w/ out the intercooler and on stock internals? Will you add this to your website when it is in production and will you offer the FMIC and FMU/Clamp as an upgrade so it can be purchased seperate later?

The budget kit *could* be run without an intercooler, but you'd really have to watch your boost and NOT go ANY higher than 6psi, if even that high. And yes, you would be able to do that on stock internals. Realize you MAY be saving money with no FMIC or no internals, but in the long run, you'll want to up the boost and won't be safely able to do so.

 

[sonosesso]

Beau, sent you a pm, I live in Southern Cali, may be willing to work something out! Hope to hear from you!

 

[supa saiyan pr5]

Anymore info available?????

Jeremy

 

[protege02]

alright, could someone please tell me why turbo kits cost over a thousand dollars? i swear it's just a block of metal that is rounded and has a little spinner on the inside. i know u make alot of power with it, but does it really cost a thousand plus dollars to make one. im pretty sure that it only cost like $500 to make a good one. i think people just charge like 2k, 3k, 4k, and so on because of the whp increase. just wondering why charge so much? but if u can actually make a turbo, that is reliable, for $1600, you can count me in. (kiss)

 

[sonosesso]

Ok guys, i don't know what kinda car mental addiction is looking for... but i have a 2003 protege 5, and i live about 6 hrs from them! I pm'd them, and got not much of a response... has anyone heard anything new about this! LATE! Jeff

 

[seatbackfurther]

alright, could someone please tell me why turbo kits cost over a thousand dollars? i swear it's just a block of metal that is rounded and has a little spinner on the inside. i know u make alot of power with it, but does it really cost a thousand plus dollars to make one. im pretty sure that it only cost like $500 to make a good one. i think people just charge like 2k, 3k, 4k, and so on because of the whp increase. just wondering why charge so much? but if u can actually make a turbo, that is reliable, for $1600, you can count me in. (kiss)

If you had a more popular car, it'd be cheaper. It costs for R&D etc. Not sure on the exact costs. If you had say a 240sx with the KA24DE you could go to http://www.boostdesigns.com/stage1.htm and get a t3, tubular manifold, downpipe, 38mm wg, FMIC w/pipes, FMU, BOV, oil feed, return, fittings, air filter, etc for less than 1900. Just to show you an example.

I am no way plugging the site, just happened to find it and used it as a cost reference.

 

[bigj884]

would the T3 that is being talked about in this thread work on an Auto tranny? if so how much is the base price on the T3 i know the cheap turbo is 1900 but i dont think anyone set a price for the T3, but i probably wrong.

also any updates on the car situation and any pics?

 

[cyomega]

alright, could someone please tell me why turbo kits cost over a thousand dollars? i swear it's just a block of metal that is rounded and has a little spinner on the inside. i know u make alot of power with it, but does it really cost a thousand plus dollars to make one. im pretty sure that it only cost like $500 to make a good one. i think people just charge like 2k, 3k, 4k, and so on because of the whp increase. just wondering why charge so much? but if u can actually make a turbo, that is reliable, for $1600, you can count me in. (kiss)

You could always just run some silicon hose from your intake to the driver's seat, and when you want boost, put the hose in your mouth and blow...

Easy forced induction, minimal cost.

 

[protege02]

yeah, i hate 240's because they all of a sudden got popular cause of drifting and everyone wants one now. i figure it would be the process of making the turbo, but i refuse to spend 5k on a 15k car and its for 115whp. your paying alot of 1whp there. like $43 per whp. i dont know if anyone thinks of it that way but thats the way i see it.

 

[changedman]

ok- go make a turbo kit complete with its own engine computer, and let us know how it comes its not that easy- fabrication, turbos ARENT cheap- it can spin in excess of 100,000RPMS. try making one that can handle that, its not easy.

 

[RyanJayG]

yeah, i hate 240's because they all of a sudden got popular cause of drifting and everyone wants one now. i figure it would be the process of making the turbo, but i refuse to spend 5k on a 15k car and its for 115whp. your paying alot of 1whp there. like $43 per whp. i dont know if anyone thinks of it that way but thats the way i see it.

huh? your math makes no sense.... and what are you talking about 115whp.... the only car that made that is the mp3 (debateable) the msp made more and the p5/es made like 100-110 (on a really good day)

but the real point I'm getting at is that sure you can make a SUPER ghetto turbo kit for like $500 and a case of beer, but the quality and materials would flat suck, not to mention you'd CERTAINLY be dealing with a VERY used turbo... I can attest to the fact that even at $1900 Mental Addiction's stuff would be practically show quality

 

[changedman]

this is true. always top notch

 

[protege02]

huh? your math makes no sense.... and what are you talking about 115whp.... the only car that made that is the mp3 (debateable) the msp made more and the p5/es made like 100-110 (on a really good day)

but the real point I'm getting at is that sure you can make a SUPER ghetto turbo kit for like $500 and a case of beer, but the quality and materials would flat suck, not to mention you'd CERTAINLY be dealing with a VERY used turbo... I can attest to the fact that even at $1900 Mental Addiction's stuff would be practically show quality

i was talking about the turbo gains that you receive is 115whp(in particular the hiboost turbo and i know you can acheive more than that but dont think its worth close to $5k and for the math 5000/115 which is exactly 43.48) i know the car has like 100 to 110whp stock. im not knocking anything off just wanted to see what people had to say about it. if i had money to blow off like that then i would probably do it, but i dont. im fine with the way the car drives, i bought the car for its handling characteristics, looks, and relibility, and if i wanted speed i would have gotten a 88 supercharged m3.

 

[Protege Mommy]

I have no business posting in this forum, for I am a very mechanically challenged individual. But out of curiosity, how much would it cost to make a turbo kit that is similar to the stock kit of a MSP, and also be emissions legal? Would that qualify as "budget"?

 

[RyanJayG]

i was talking about the turbo gains that you receive is 115whp(in particular the hiboost turbo and i know you can acheive more than that but dont think its worth close to $5k and for the math 5000/115 which is exactly 43.48) i know the car has like 100 to 110whp stock. im not knocking anything off just wanted to see what people had to say about it. if i had money to blow off like that then i would probably do it, but i dont. im fine with the way the car drives, i bought the car for its handling characteristics, looks, and relibility, and if i wanted speed i would have gotten a 88 supercharged m3.

I see what you are saying, but most turbo kits for the protege don't cost $5000... and 115whp is just a derrivative of what boost you are running. you could make it +200whp if you really wanted. the point is, wheither you deem "$43 per hp" worth it or not, there is no other way to make "115whp" on a protege without costing even more.

 

[cyomega]

Your computations are all wrong. Don't think of it as $5K (actually more like $3.5K) for 115WHP, think of it as paying $3.5K to more than DOUBLE the WHP. Those extra 100+ ponies make quite a difference in the Slowtege... and it's certainly worth the cost.

 

[BiGx5MurF]

Whatever happened to this thread? Was there not enough interest seeing how this kit is not on MAM's site.

 

[bonesmp5]

i was wondering that the other day as well --

did you ever find your test car ??

 

[digitalpro5]

Your computations are all wrong. Don't think of it as $5K (actually more like $3.5K) for 115WHP, think of it as paying $3.5K to more than DOUBLE the WHP. Those extra 100+ ponies make quite a difference in the Slowtege... and it's certainly worth the cost.

Thats the same reasoning as I have. Adding 100+ Hp on P5 is really great and it'll be in the range of going toe to toe with stock EVO's, STI's and quite a lot of other cars out there. Forgive me if I'm wrong with that, but its still plenty fast.

I have a friend, nice guy, but he is purplexed as why a Mazdaspeed Protege is faster then his "160+HP Mazda3." Given the fact that the MSP is 175HP he can't account as to why 15 HP is making such a big difference. I keep telling him its because it has turbo and has the power pretty quickly.