FS-DE Oil System
- Thread starter MP3racer
- Start date
- :
- 2003 mazda protege5
dont mean to threadjack but i seen someplace that you were goin to start making fuel rails for the protege any luck on them
Question on the FS-DE oiling system.
I'm a n00b to this motor. I daily drive my P5 and want to protect it for spirited street driving. It has 125k miles on the original motor, would replacing the factory pan with the AWR help me at all? Does the pan hang super low? I wouldn't want to scrape the AWR pan on the ground at all after I lower the car.
I'm just trying to do preventative maintenance that won't put a dent in my pocket.
I'm a n00b to this motor. I daily drive my P5 and want to protect it for spirited street driving. It has 125k miles on the original motor, would replacing the factory pan with the AWR help me at all? Does the pan hang super low? I wouldn't want to scrape the AWR pan on the ground at all after I lower the car.
I'm just trying to do preventative maintenance that won't put a dent in my pocket.
Maxx Mazda
Contributor
- :
- Stock P5
You won't scrape the pan.
The AWR pan does not hang down that low that you should be in danger of srcaping it without scraping other items under your car. It gets the added oil capacity from a wider pan.
That said, the pan will help keep oil around the pickup in very high G turns. However, there are other issues with the OE oiling system that rear their ugly head during consistent mid to high rpm use (also known as spirited driving for more than 10 minutes at a time). The main problem as has been stated in this thread previously is with the internal pressure relief valve of the OE oil pump. That is why we sell the external PRV and alter the OE system to allow the use of an external PRV. Also, by upgrading the OE pump to improved capabitity (our pump service) the system improves even further.
Hope this helps!
Will let you know when we get it!! Your Hat is reserved!! (headbang)
I see. So what you're saying is if you don't plan on driving in a spirited fashion for more than 10 minutes the stock pan would be ok? I would upgrade the pump but have no means or the need (at this time) to remove an otherwise perfectly running motor. Also, I hear you have to have the full AWR motor mount package to install this pan, due to there being very limited spacing and if the engine moves slightly it was clunk against other parts.
I plan on getting an oil pressure gauge soon to monitor oil levels, wouldn't hurt to know what's going on. Also, do you recommend 5W-30 in these or 10W-30?
I plan on getting an oil pressure gauge soon to monitor oil levels, wouldn't hurt to know what's going on. Also, do you recommend 5W-30 in these or 10W-30?
Last edited:
Signature Sound
Banned
- :
- stock G15
I have it and I think you would like it too. Any upgrades to oil system on our car is highly recommended. The pan hangs flush with the suspension pivot points and is quite strong. HOWEVER... If you really want the best non-power adder money can buy (especially for piece of mind) PM MP3Racer Tom and let him know your oil pump is its way to him. He will hook you up.
When I mentioned the spirited driving "over 10 minutes" that is just a rough estimate. You may get problems before that.
Also, I did not reference the pan as a means to prevent the problems I stated. The pan will not solve the oil pumps inability to provide proper oil pressure. The pan prevents uncovering of the oil pickup in high G turns.
Two very different issues.
Oil weight depends on season (average ambient temperature), type of use the motor will see, mileage on the motor (motor condition), expected time between changes, etc.
If you need a recommendation for oil to run have a reputable mechanic look at the motor and give you an idea based on the factors above.
Hey Tom.... I show that my oil pump has arrived there, on friday. Can you just confirm this and maybe give me a heads up as to when you want me to paypal, what the estimated time of completion is and what cool hat I can have?
I'm not in a huge rush, just wanna know it got there safe and that this lowly canadian isn't going to be forgotten...
Thanks.
I'm not in a huge rush, just wanna know it got there safe and that this lowly canadian isn't going to be forgotten...
Thanks.
Your oil Pump has arrived and was opened for intial measurments. You have been PM'd with the specs and information.
Since you were the first to take advantage of our new FREE HAT OFFER you have your pick of which hat you would like!!
Your pump in our shop with the assortment of hats to choose from.
BTW, great job on cleaning your oil pump!! (yes) I thought it was a brand new one at first!!
And don't consider yourself a "lowly Canadian", most of here at Doc B Racing consider ourselves part Canadian since we spend so much time in Canada racing in the Canadian Touring Car Championship with the MSP!
I want the Hawk one! Thanks for the compliment, you have a PM. All I did for the cleaning was to use a fine wire attachment in a cordless drill, and our industrial parts washer... I'm now working on my MBSP to get it the same so I can weld fittings for my turbo drain and your ExPRV....Your oil Pump has arrived and was opened for intial measurments. You have been PM'd with the specs and information.
Since you were the first to take advantage of our new FREE HAT OFFER you have your pick of which hat you would like!!
Your pump in our shop with the assortment of hats to choose from.
BTW, great job on cleaning your oil pump!! (yes) I thought it was a brand new one at first!!
And don't consider yourself a "lowly Canadian", most of here at Doc B Racing consider ourselves part Canadian since we spend so much time in Canada racing in the Canadian Touring Car Championship with the MSP!
I want the Hawk one! Thanks for the compliment, you have a PM. All I did for the cleaning was to use a fine wire attachment in a cordless drill, and our industrial parts washer... I'm now working on my MBSP to get it the same so I can weld fittings for my turbo drain and your ExPRV....
If you are able to get it as clean as the oil pump shouldn't be a probelm to weld in the fittings!!
The Hawk hat will be reserved for you!!(yippy)
It's OK this time....I will take care of it and clean it up(doh)
BTW, which hat did you want from the FREE HAT OFFER ?
(picture above)
mp3-79bronco
Member
- :
- 2001 protege mp3
can you provide some good pics of the setup?
I do realize this thread is getting a bit long to read through.....Anyway, there are some pics of the system in #268 of this thread and a drawing of the layout in #284.
Hope this helps??
