yaeh thme ms3 is awsome but the gsr incase you didn't no is one of the baselines for "the real" vtec honda used to call it "rev", the racing vtec wich made the 155wheel hp in the gsr which kicke in at 5,800 rpm like in the nsx and to follow the prelude and the new bmw m6, m3,m5, they call it varible something .cant remeber same with the porcha gt3 same they call it vario cam, toyota calls it itec or something, its all the same thing kick it in at high rpm and it accelarates the air like a turo and raises the redline capacity, theey have bulls*** vtec names all over but its for gas mileage or something, not the same thing
former honda guy considering a mazdaspeed 3
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on a gsr vtec kicked in at 4400... Butterflies in the manifold opened up at 5800... the butterflies opening up isnt anything called racing vtec or anything like that... it is what it is.
vtec is an acronym for variable valve timing and electronic control.....
vtec is an acronym for variable valve timing and electronic control.....
yeah i know it began at 4400 rpm , but the real action began at 5,800 rpm, and what i mean by non racing vtec since ya couldnt figure it out. reg honda acord, regular previuos cleica, revular most honda and toyaota cars wich have some form of it, since you didnt catch on to what i meant...
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i knew exactly what you were talking about. I was just correcting your statement.
Can't imagine how that could be...
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speaking of integras, i used to own a gsr , with all the bolt on you can think of ... without a turbo though, but the power just was'nt there like our ms3 nowdays, anyways, just wanted to say how good of a machine the ms3 is compared to any car out there with it's price. With my ms3 now.... its such a shame that no hondas around my area can even come close beating me from a roll or dig...(nj) maybe i just havent come across one that will(turboed..etc).. but still, its funny that at least these ricers still try to race , its all that HONDA pride thing i guess, used to be me too, i didnt care if it was a corvette, i would rev that gsr before like theres no tomorrow !! lol..with my ms3 now, i am more confident to race anyone, win or lose, i will still keep up,.... compared to my old gsr.... anyways, have fun with your ms3 !!!!!
I traded my S2000 for my MS3. So far I'm happy with the choice. The MS3 is not quite the true sports car that the S2000 was, but its close. The only thing I really miss is the 9000 RPMs and the gear box in the S2000.
Over-all I think you will be pleased. This car is very fun to drive, but be prepaired to hit 6000 RPMs in the blink of an eye. Thats probably the only thing I dislike about the MS3 is the short gears. You hit the limit of the Turbo in 1st and 2nd before you hit redline, so you really have to shift fast to maintain power. Coming from a 9000 RPM machine that pulled all the way to 9200 RPMs is a big change that takes getting use too for sure.
Over-all I think you will be pleased. This car is very fun to drive, but be prepaired to hit 6000 RPMs in the blink of an eye. Thats probably the only thing I dislike about the MS3 is the short gears. You hit the limit of the Turbo in 1st and 2nd before you hit redline, so you really have to shift fast to maintain power. Coming from a 9000 RPM machine that pulled all the way to 9200 RPMs is a big change that takes getting use too for sure.
I've had an EG hatch for about 5 years that I've put god knows how many hours into and have loved since the day I got it. I bought an 07 speed3 in December and while its a great car it still doesn't compare to my Honda. Yes the inside is nice, and the stereo sounds good and the HIDs are nice and it has great pickup but you could take it away in a second and i wouldn't shed a tear. The MS3 is a great car compared to its rivals in the marketplace, but i wouldn't trade my Civic for anything. Just my opinion.
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loll something i DEFINITELY did not want to hear.
it was tough losing my car and seeing it stripped to hell, i dont think anything will be able to fully replace it.
but thanks for your comment.
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I think hes comparing the two in a more sentimental way... He obviously loves the honda and poured his heart and soul into it. Depending on what's done to it, the thrill to drive it may be a lot higher than what he gets from driving the ms3. Also, the work done on it makes it irreplacable, whereas the ms3 would be relatively easy to replace given he has the money to do so.
I just know exactly what he means.. I put a lot of man hours into working on it and making it mine, and now it's gone. It's heard to imagine replacing it that easily.
dude youd take a whimpy civic over an ms3, i think your a littlle off, but to each his own..., i guessss?(uhm)
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lol a civic is based on the same platform as my integra was...
Are you gonna say the same thing to me?
Theres a big difference when you put a lot of money and time in a car compared to just going out and buying it and leaving it stock.
Those little eg's can be made quick as ****... the whole entire drivetrain from an integra gs-r bolts right in... Easy way to get right into the 13's or so... Add a turbo and you can break into the 11's or in some cases in the 10's pretty easy. I don't see whats whimpy about that...
I'm not bashing mazdas at all, I'm trying to get one, I'm just saying, hondas are easy as hell to mod, and when you do it, you get reallllyy attached. It's hard to let them go.
Are you gonna say the same thing to me?
Theres a big difference when you put a lot of money and time in a car compared to just going out and buying it and leaving it stock.
Those little eg's can be made quick as ****... the whole entire drivetrain from an integra gs-r bolts right in... Easy way to get right into the 13's or so... Add a turbo and you can break into the 11's or in some cases in the 10's pretty easy. I don't see whats whimpy about that...
I'm not bashing mazdas at all, I'm trying to get one, I'm just saying, hondas are easy as hell to mod, and when you do it, you get reallllyy attached. It's hard to let them go.
got a slip to prove this ??? very hard to believe on a 250 whp dc. I trust your #'s, but not your times. To many honda guys say, yeah, my car will run, blah blah blah, but never run it.
my 420 whp boosted h22 lude went 12.1 on slicks. T-72 Turbonetics Ball Bearing Turbo, Fully sleeved/built bottom end and $3000 into the head alone. All tuned on Hondata.... man i miss the Hondata/Crome dayz
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yeah, i had an integra it was great in its own way, but the ms3 is different beast.BETTER in every way!!!!
